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Jakes Progress

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57. I guess when you lack credible argument,

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 03:49 PM

Apr 2013

your snarking could be considered a good ploy.

A man campaigns on closing Gitmo. He gets elected, and doesn't do it. According you to, Obama has trouble with basic Civics. That silly man thought he could close Gitmo. I thought he could. That's one reason I campaigned and voted for him.

So did you know that Obama was as stupid as you now say back then. I mean, you are telling all of us that only someone with trouble understanding basic Civics would think that could happen. So you are saying that when you voted for him, you thought he had trouble with basic Civics?

Why did you vote for someone so stupid?

See where your circum-logic gets you? I think I'm smarter than you about Civics. I think Obama is smarter than you about Civics. I think you know better too, but your position is weak enough that you felt the need to try to run this silliness by.

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Will anyone disagree with this? President Obama deserves harsh criticism over the Gitmo horror [View all] cali Apr 2013 OP

No Congress deserves the critisism Drale Apr 2013 #1

But Cali would rather blame Obama. tridim Apr 2013 #3

because that post is largely bullshit. Please read post #4 cali Apr 2013 #6

Well Rex Apr 2013 #14

That's what Cali does. Sorry. tridim Apr 2013 #24

I remember when Cali was one of President Obama's ardent supporters. bvar22 Apr 2013 #86

And you would rather give Pres Obama a pass because that's what you do. rhett o rick Apr 2013 #95

not really. cali Apr 2013 #4

Yemeni President's opinion > Actual reality. Check. tridim Apr 2013 #9

Not Quite Maedhros Apr 2013 #43

Just as I said, Obama tried to close Gitmo and Congress stopped it. tridim Apr 2013 #80

A closed Gitmo is irrelevant if the inmates remain incarcerated somewhere else. Maedhros Apr 2013 #85

Indefinite Detention: A-OK now, because Obama supports it. bobduca Apr 2013 #87

Way to miss a bunch of other information there, tridim. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #58

Doesn't alter the FACT that Obama tried to close gitmo and Congress stopped it. tridim Apr 2013 #81

I'm not talking about closing Gitmo!!! Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #83

"Obama sought not to close Guant�namo but simply to re-locate it to Illinois" Thanks grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #90

Closing Gitmo won't end their incarceration. The plan was to transfer them to the U.S. and continue Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #10

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #19

Bullshit....Obama is the commander in chief of the armed forces. zeemike Apr 2013 #32

+1 clarice Apr 2013 #53

+1 ReRe Apr 2013 #72

Ever heard the term "power of the purse"? tritsofme Apr 2013 #100

Yes it rests in the house... zeemike Apr 2013 #109

If Congress withheld the money, how is it continuing to operate? City Lights Apr 2013 #37

Excellent point, but the Obama-can-do-no-wrong crowd ... Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #59

They also acted like the prisoners were so EVIL they couldn't be allowed on US soil,.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #51

Yes, thanks, elleng Apr 2013 #52

What a bag of bull shit. Obama was blocked from closing it by the Republicans in Congress. olegramps Apr 2013 #63

So why didnt the Commander In Chief just transfer the prisoners to rhett o rick Apr 2013 #96

No, you are wrong, the current president tabled it and am sure akbacchus_BC Apr 2013 #106

CLOSE GITMO Blue Owl Apr 2013 #2

Congress deserves harsh criticism. AtomicKitten Apr 2013 #5

Obama wanted to move Gitmo prisoners to Illinois cali Apr 2013 #7

Yes he did want to move them to Illinois. AtomicKitten Apr 2013 #18

no I'm not. as Greenwald asks, do you really think that geographical location cali Apr 2013 #21

Alrighty then. There it is. AtomicKitten Apr 2013 #25

Apparently, yes. For some, when an embarassing issue is raised, it's always somebody else's fault. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #8

I don't know what he can do in this situation. Rex Apr 2013 #11

uh, he can release those cleared to be released to begin with. He can do something about the cali Apr 2013 #13

So he does have the power to release them Rex Apr 2013 #15

So he take a quick trip on air force one and has them jump on board? snooper2 Apr 2013 #23

Why does he need to close it down? Why not just charge or release the prisoners? hughee99 Apr 2013 #16

Exactly Angelonthesidelines Apr 2013 #29

Team Awesome LOVES this Classic Name to Call Them alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #40

irony subsystem failure bobduca Apr 2013 #62

Okay thanks, I did not know that. Rex Apr 2013 #31

He does. hughee99 Apr 2013 #46

Well then I will definetly keep this seperated from wanting Gitmo closed down. Rex Apr 2013 #50

I blame the entire government. Solly Mack Apr 2013 #12

Well said. just1voice Apr 2013 #22

+1000 Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #60

me too.... mike_c Apr 2013 #111

of course not, he's playing 3 dimensional chess, remember? bowens43 Apr 2013 #17

For REALZ!!! alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #41

For those saying "Obama is blameless, it's all the fault of Congress": cali Apr 2013 #20

thank you for posting this..nt xiamiam Apr 2013 #26

This is a stain on our nation's honor and on the Obama presidency. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #27

It used to be Un-American Angelonthesidelines Apr 2013 #30

Plenty of blame to go around. JEB Apr 2013 #28

Thanks for posting your OP.... xocet Apr 2013 #33

Trashing thread. Take your ODS somewhere else. Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #34

Problem with facts? Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #64

Problem with hate! Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #74

Oh, because I'm against the indefinite detention of people ... Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #76

Blame the right people: The Republicans!!!!! You're now on IGNORE. Good-bye! Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #79

I blame everyone responsible including Republicans and Obama. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #82

I disagree most heartily, as does anyone else who doesn't have an "agenda". Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #35

Inconvenient truths. MineralMan Apr 2013 #38

It's like a vicious dogpile. Dems are trying to lead on gun control, immigration reform, and..... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #45

Thanks for posting. It's frustrating to find MineralMan Apr 2013 #48

Except that's not the point, Tarheel_Dem! Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #66

And many of whom cannot return to their homes, because their governments don't want 'em. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #84

It is the libodem Apr 2013 #36

Obama and Guantanamo: A chronology of his broken promise... L0oniX Apr 2013 #39

I`m curious.... democrank Apr 2013 #42

No person with a working sense of right and wrong Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #44

Haven't quite grasped the concept of "co-equal" branches of government, have you? Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #47

I guess when you lack credible argument, Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #57

Haven't quite grasped the concept of "indefinite detention without trial," have you? Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #61

Nice snark ... Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #67

Release them to where? mythology Apr 2013 #89

Obama ordered GITMO closed and Republicans cut finding to move the prisoners.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #49

Absolutely. It would cost nothing, and not require any Congressional funding, for him to invite AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #54

We just came off the heels of the Bush Thugs acting like the rest of the world wants us dead. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #55

As far as I know, President Obama tried, but Democrats voted against him also. akbacchus_BC Apr 2013 #102

"Democrats voted against him also" Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #105

I am not making this up. Some Dems voted against closing Gitmo! akbacchus_BC Apr 2013 #107

Blue Dogs don't count.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #110

I'm with you, Cali! Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #56

ACLU: Urgent White House Action Needed to Avert Guant�namo Human Rights Crisis ProSense Apr 2013 #65

Some here say the POTUS can fix this by letting them go Rex Apr 2013 #71

If you continue, obfuscate or exonerate the crimes of your predecessor, hell yes! RedCloud Apr 2013 #68

There is a LOT to criticize our Conservative POTUS for. broadcaster75201 Apr 2013 #69

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #70

help! calling all Unwavering Apologists!!! G_j Apr 2013 #73

Until these men can write big checks to campaigns MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #75

No, he tried, but congress would not let it happen still_one Apr 2013 #77

If the Obama administration ordered that videos and photos of these JDPriestly Apr 2013 #78

Why cant he simply move the prisoners to another of our prisons rhett o rick Apr 2013 #97

It's terrible what's going on there in GITMO KoKo Apr 2013 #88

The S.Ct. decided this issue years ago. Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #91

... Number23 Apr 2013 #92

This evil belongs to Congress. Hekate Apr 2013 #93

Not if we had a president with some guts. He has options. nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #98

I think that particular canard has been debunked a number of times Hekate Apr 2013 #103

been protesting it for 10 f'**king years. Obama or Bush annm4peace Apr 2013 #94

Cali, I hear you, President Obama is akbacchus_BC Apr 2013 #99

+1 tblue Apr 2013 #101

Not only that, there are home grown terrorists in the US, but no, akbacchus_BC Apr 2013 #104

... killbotfactory Apr 2013 #108