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hfojvt

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34. actually I put progressives to the left of liberals
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 04:51 PM
Apr 2013

that's why I use the word progressive instead of liberal. I use it to mean "the left wing of the Democratic Party" whereas liberals are more like "the center of the Democratic Party".

Or at least they used to be, before the Party moved way to the right.

As for anti-Obama posts, well before 2010 I was considered an Obama-bot here http://journals.democraticunderground.com/hfojvt/121
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/hfojvt/127

What happened?

The way I see it, Obama betrayed me. He extended the Bush tax cuts, and then lied about it http://journals.democraticunderground.com/hfojvt/138 , and then kept proposing more tax cuts for the rich, like the accursed payroll tax cut http://journals.democraticunderground.com/hfojvt/135

and then Obama made the vast majority of the Bush tax cuts permanent. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022130101

So, at this point, I am not very kindly disposed towards him.

But I still will do what I can to defeat our odious Republican Governor, put more Democrats in the state legislature and even take a couple of Congressional seats in Kansas (taking the 2nd and 3rd districts would be the best case scenario, one we realized in 2006, but I highly doubt it in 2014). Even if I don't run myself, like I did in 2010 (for Congress (lost in the primary)) and in 2012 for County Treasurer (got creamed like all the other Democratic candidates for County office).

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What will hurt Hillary pipoman Apr 2013 #1
+ AtomicKitten Apr 2013 #23
+1 Marr Apr 2013 #25
Help, of course. But not so much, or in a manner such that it is overall desirable cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #2
Since she is more of a republican I don't see how it matters. Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #3
+1 forestpath Apr 2013 #4
. Politicub Apr 2013 #5
Oh brother. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #7
Well, Hillary's an American, KamaAina Apr 2013 #6
It will hurt ALL of America AND our party. 2016 will be ripe for rigging and GOP will gain blm Apr 2013 #8
It will definitely hurt Hillary, but above all, it will hurt this country on every level. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #9
It doesn't surprise me anymore that your post isn't getting more Rec's BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #10
Why should this post get more recs? hfojvt Apr 2013 #14
I'm a Progressive, and it's NO "finger in [my] eye". BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #27
define progressive then hfojvt Apr 2013 #29
Progressive: one who wants to move this country forward. Regressive: one who doesn't. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #31
actually I put progressives to the left of liberals hfojvt Apr 2013 #34
who wants to see Democrats lose big in 2014? hfojvt Apr 2013 #11
I don't know, ProSense Apr 2013 #15
Did Democrats losing big in 2010 help or hurt Obama in 2012? hfojvt Apr 2013 #17
It ProSense Apr 2013 #18
Do you think you'll get an answer BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #28
thank goodness you are not providing any snarky remarks hfojvt Apr 2013 #30
You don't think you can dish it and not expect any in return, do you? And as for #17 BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #32
So it's already a foregone conclusion Democrats are going to lose big in 2014? Tempest Apr 2013 #12
It's totally the fault of the emoprogs too hfojvt Apr 2013 #16
Will hurt the Democratic party & America period William769 Apr 2013 #13
Hillary will be the next President, let me count the ways. graham4anything Apr 2013 #19
IF... sarisataka Apr 2013 #20
Of course it would hurt Hillary if she does run, particularly if she wins the WH. Beacool Apr 2013 #21
It would hurt any Democratic candidate. HappyMe Apr 2013 #22
Hillary will probably win either way, sadbear Apr 2013 #24
What a bizarre poll. Laelth Apr 2013 #26
Hillary won't be running for President. She's retired from politics. nt Zorra Apr 2013 #33
Any big Republican gain leads to Republican over-reach leads to Democratic rebounds Bucky Apr 2013 #35
Hillary won the 2016 primaries? Chisox08 Apr 2013 #36
Not everything is about Hillary. winter is coming Apr 2013 #37
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