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BlueStreak

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17. Good question. I don't know. It seems to have been offered as an amendment

Wed Apr 17, 2013, 06:21 PM

Apr 2013

so maybe that is why it needed 60 votes.

I didn't understand earlier this week when Reid said he would take a vote on it because bringing up a bill can be blocked with a cloture fibibuster. But maybe Reid was able to bypass that by offering it as an amendment. The result was the same, but at least this forced Republicans to be on the record rather than simply voting against cloture.

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I blame The Senator from Nevada who could have changed the filibuster rules but didn't!! nt [View all] kelliekat44 Apr 2013 OP

Could have TWICE..failed both times SoCalDem Apr 2013 #1

Actually he had 3 opportunities - 2009, 2011, AND 2013. smokey nj Apr 2013 #15

In 2009 we also had the house, so he probably did not see any reason for it SoCalDem Apr 2013 #22

The perfect time to do it was when Democrats controlled both houses. smokey nj Apr 2013 #27

Amen.. That should have been day-one business SoCalDem Apr 2013 #31

Harry Reid is a great tactician. Best not to ever cede any power that might haunt later. graham4anything Apr 2013 #2

We might have been able to win this battle, though. gateley Apr 2013 #4

Question ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #42

You think people are actually going to go out and vote in 2014? gateley Apr 2013 #44

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #45

I really hope you're right. SS is what turned the people against W (those gateley Apr 2013 #46

True ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #54

Some don't have years. Some have had their years taken from them. AndyA Apr 2013 #5

This bill wouldn't have ended the deaths. A reinterpretation of the 2nd will stop it. graham4anything Apr 2013 #8

Well said! MyOwnPeace Apr 2013 #32

If you believe a Republican majority won't eliminate the filibuster jeff47 Apr 2013 #9

Yeah, except Dems JEB Apr 2013 #10

They don't need to end it when they are in charge (see Bush years) SoCalDem Apr 2013 #24

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2013 #34

As if Skidmore Apr 2013 #35

And lives. Lots of them,...right? Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #38

Yep. Some were explaining that it was actually a good thing (I forget the reasons) gateley Apr 2013 #3

President Obama just gave the single most forceful speech against the NRA ever. graham4anything Apr 2013 #7

Thanks for the laugh. nt awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #12

Oh, a speech? That's so special. hatrack Apr 2013 #13

I understand your skepticism BlueStreak Apr 2013 #25

Well la-dee-dah - it took him 4.5 years to use the word "lie" with RW's rabid assclowns? hatrack Apr 2013 #48

I basically agree with you BlueStreak Apr 2013 #49

I only heard snippets of the speech, but he was powerful. And a radio commenter I heard gateley Apr 2013 #28

It would have been blocked in the House anyway. BlueStreak Apr 2013 #11

+1. Obama roped the dopes again. Thanks for reminding folks about the House. graham4anything Apr 2013 #14

Please post this as a standalone new thread. graham4anything Apr 2013 #16

OK. It is here ... BlueStreak Apr 2013 #21

Tell that to Joe and the families of the victims, and the 90+ % of Americans who want progress on gateley Apr 2013 #29

There was no filibuster here. It actually went to the floor rainy Apr 2013 #6

Good question. I don't know. It seems to have been offered as an amendment BlueStreak Apr 2013 #17

The filibuster was on amending the bill to a more popular version of background checks jeff47 Apr 2013 #50

60 to open debate and 60 to close debate krawhitham Apr 2013 #53

So do I Progressive dog Apr 2013 #18

I blame the Republicans who insisted on filibustering this bill.. DCBob Apr 2013 #19

The NRA-sponsored Cornyn amendment got 57 votes. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #20

Right...so how would that help you pass the bill through the GOP House? tritsofme Apr 2013 #23

Who, Harry,who doesn't work for Obama DevonRex Apr 2013 #26

He works for the people of NV and the Senate Democratic Caucus Freddie Stubbs Apr 2013 #30

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2013 #33

Didn't see your OP before I posted mine. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #36

More like adieu Apr 2013 #37

I'm in! n/t ewagner Apr 2013 #39

Heckofajob, Harry! blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #40

In the words of someone of Reid's intellectual strata: YOU BETCHA! Plucketeer Apr 2013 #41

You mean "Harry the Big Talker"...who "Caves In" at the end? KoKo Apr 2013 #43

Lots of blame to go around. But he deserves a share. Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #47

The Senate Democratic Caucus CHOSE Harry Reid to do EXACTLY what he is doing. bvar22 Apr 2013 #51

HE DID NOT HAVE THE VOTES to change the filibuster rules or so says BERNIE SANDERS krawhitham Apr 2013 #52