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sarisataka

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53. The 19th Amendment

Reply to CK_John (Reply #31)

Wed Apr 17, 2013, 06:27 PM

Apr 2013

Established women's suffrage. It was the 21st that repealed the 18th and gave states the power to prohibit alcohol

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Like prohibition it's time to amend the second amendment. [View all] CK_John Apr 2013 OP

There is very little support for that. pintobean Apr 2013 #1

are you lying or don't you understand the chart you just posted? CreekDog Apr 2013 #54

I understand just fine pintobean Apr 2013 #58

Given the well-documented track record, I'd say Curtain #1 is where the answer lies. apocalypsehow Apr 2013 #73

... pintobean Apr 2013 #106

amend the 2nd amendment? we can't pass the most minor of gun control legislation.congress i DrDan Apr 2013 #2

But SCOTUS the good ones, are not. Reinterpet the 2nd with a new SCOTUS in 5 to 10 years graham4anything Apr 2013 #21

I guess reading legal decisions is not your strong point. former9thward Apr 2013 #62

Sonia and Elena were NOT on the court then. graham4anything Apr 2013 #64

Try again. former9thward Apr 2013 #80

Justice Sotomayer will be a good vote. She is the best justice since Thurgood Marshall died. graham4anything Apr 2013 #83

She signed on to the individual right also. former9thward Apr 2013 #86

One doesn't reveal their hand til the time a win is known. See Gay marriage. graham4anything Apr 2013 #87

Heller needs a review. Supreme Court can order a review of any existing laws. Tender to the Bone Apr 2013 #65

How is Heller wrong? Atlatl Apr 2013 #66

Figure it out, gun lover Tender to the Bone Apr 2013 #71

That argument failed to persuade a single justice last time it was tried. dairydog91 Apr 2013 #79

Hmmm, pipoman Apr 2013 #89

That's simply flat-out wrong. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #95

No amendment 'gives' anyone anything, that's true. X_Digger Apr 2013 #101

SCOTUS can "order a review"? dairydog91 Apr 2013 #68

Congressional review, sorry... Tender to the Bone Apr 2013 #72

What does that accomplish? dairydog91 Apr 2013 #76

No, a president can't order a review. former9thward Apr 2013 #75

That is why it is time to move the process to the states. Start the process. CK_John Apr 2013 #69

Amen.. pipoman Apr 2013 #96

Some of us "gun lovers" have advocated this for some time! Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #147

They did listen to the population Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #3

80-90% want background checks nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #7

No it is not a minority Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #13

Yup, it's a minority nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #17

Flank? Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #23

You vote for gun control nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #26

Oh, thanks Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #37

No, the problem is that the NRA s fighting any and all nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #38

Reciprocity and the BG amendment were separate, and were voted on separately. X_Digger Apr 2013 #42

Thank you very much! n/t Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #49

They listened to the 10% of gun worshippers who oppose any restriction geek tragedy Apr 2013 #8

Please flame me if need be Lawlbringer Apr 2013 #4

Bill of Rights can be completely repealed by amendment, nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #6

The Bill of rights, like any other part of the Constitution, can be amended Agnosticsherbet Apr 2013 #10

The 18th admendment was modified by the 19th admendmend to allow booze. CK_John Apr 2013 #11

Entire Constitution can be amended as per Constitution Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #18

Actually a majority of the Senate listened to the people. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2013 #5

Maybe if we let the south secede that could happen. nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #9

Maybe if we let Urban Centers secede the number of murders would decrease? nt CokeMachine Apr 2013 #27

So would the nation's average IQ and education level. nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #36

Because there are no high IQ or well-educated people anywhere but Urban Centers. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2013 #48

There are some. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #50

Probably not a very large change. CokeMachine Apr 2013 #52

And much of the West, big chunks of the Midwest, a lot of upper New England... Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #60

Yeah, most of those Senators voted for the awful Cornyn amendment, which geek tragedy Apr 2013 #61

How many murders took place last year by people with CC permits? former9thward Apr 2013 #70

Trayvon Martin was murdered by a cc holder. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #78

Even your own link does not say "hundreds", unless you call 175 "hunreds". former9thward Apr 2013 #84

You're right--allowing George Zimmerman to walk into any black neighborhood in the country geek tragedy Apr 2013 #85

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #103

Zimmerman should be in jail! hrmjustin Apr 2013 #105

You're 0-for-2. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #92

Such a good idea, elleng Apr 2013 #12

The key words in that is Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #74

Right, thanks Lady. elleng Apr 2013 #77

A new SCOTUS in the next five years can reinterpet the 2nd like it has been in past. graham4anything Apr 2013 #14

Don't begin any proposal with "like prohibition" LittleBlue Apr 2013 #15

The most addictive political approach in the U.S. is "prohibition." Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #153

*snort* Good luck with that. X_Digger Apr 2013 #16

That's why the 2nd should be amend to allow only reasonable restrictions andstrong background check CK_John Apr 2013 #46

Note the language that poster uses about "unenumerated" rights, and references to the 9th amendment: apocalypsehow Apr 2013 #51

Hint...abortion is also an "unenumerated right". dairydog91 Apr 2013 #63

Hint...baloney. Choice and contraception have ZERO to do with fondling machine guns, or strutting apocalypsehow Apr 2013 #67

No dear, I'm disabusing a poster of the notion that repealing an amendment removes a right. X_Digger Apr 2013 #99

Oh yes you are - and we have in this latest reply more fun with right-wing memes: apocalypsehow Apr 2013 #104

LOL, if you say so. X_Digger Apr 2013 #107

Yeah, I say so - but more importantly, the *FACTS* make it so. But keep having fun spreading RW apocalypsehow Apr 2013 #111

Interesting, you didn't actually address anything I said.. X_Digger Apr 2013 #113

Asked & answered. n/t. apocalypsehow Apr 2013 #116

Link? Or will you just start regurgitating nonsense in every reply now? n/t X_Digger Apr 2013 #117

Asked & answered. Use Bing if you are unable/unwilling to maneuver yourself through Google. n/t. apocalypsehow Apr 2013 #119

As expected. Dodge. n/t X_Digger Apr 2013 #120

As expected: feigning inability to operate a browser + search engine. n/t. apocalypsehow Apr 2013 #122

Keanu's got nothing on you. That's a matrix-worthy dodge. n/t X_Digger Apr 2013 #125

Keep having fun spreading NRA talking points & memes, BTW. That stuff has a way of catching up. n/t. apocalypsehow Apr 2013 #124

Ahh, the other tactic.. reply to the same post multiple times.. X_Digger Apr 2013 #126

"...claim victory." <---That's some funny stuff, there. apocalypsehow Apr 2013 #129

And the inevitable ad hominem. There's the hattrick. n/t X_Digger Apr 2013 #131

Thanks for the (predictable) laughs: keep having fun spreading those NRA talking points & memes. apocalypsehow Apr 2013 #132

And the bonus smiley-cavalcade! I forget, is that double bonus points or triple? n/t X_Digger Apr 2013 #134

And are you going to come back to this days later and repeat something to get the last word? LOL! nt X_Digger Apr 2013 #138

"And are you going to come back to this days later and repeat something to get the last word?" apocalypsehow Apr 2013 #139

Oh, I just know your playbook, making sure I check off all the tic marks. n/t X_Digger Apr 2013 #140

Sure you are. n/t. apocalypsehow Apr 2013 #141

^^^Check this out folks^^^ More fun, funny stuff. "Ma! I need reinforcements on chip bowl 3... apocalypsehow Apr 2013 #142

Ooh, a combo move.. smiley cavalcade + multiple replies to the same post, plus ^^^^. X_Digger Apr 2013 #143

The reinforcements must have arrived - the eternal Cheeto bowl is reloaded. Keyboard engaged! apocalypsehow Apr 2013 #144

*yawn* X_Digger Apr 2013 #145

Now a frustrated "*yawn*," followed by more basement grenadier maneuvers. Textbook. n/t. apocalypsehow Apr 2013 #146

Apparently not. Ah well. I had hope, you dashed it. X_Digger Apr 2013 #148

More fun with basement gunnies. Still not fooling anybody, but plenty-a-laughs all the same. apocalypsehow Apr 2013 #149

"And are you going to come back to this days later and repeat something to get the last word?" apocalypsehow Apr 2013 #151

If this has been debunked pipoman Apr 2013 #108

It has been "debunked." Repeatedly. Google is your friend - try it. n/t. apocalypsehow Apr 2013 #110

It hasn't been debunked then? pipoman Apr 2013 #114

It has been "debunked." Repeatedly. Google is your friend - try it. n/t. apocalypsehow Apr 2013 #115

That's what I (and virtually everyone with an open mind reading this) thought...n/t pipoman Apr 2013 #121

Sure. n/t. apocalypsehow Apr 2013 #123

Too late for that SoCalDem Apr 2013 #19

Only 38 states needed to petition to amend. Start the process in the states that just passed new gun CK_John Apr 2013 #28

Yes, and only 13 states are needed to kill an amendment petition. slackmaster Apr 2013 #32

13 states block it kudzu22 Apr 2013 #57

Nor would pipoman Apr 2013 #112

I don't think you would get a single State. nt WinniSkipper Apr 2013 #150

I thought Prohibition failed? TimberValley Apr 2013 #20

That's my point the 18th started it and the 19th repealed it. Start the processp CK_John Apr 2013 #31

The 19th Amendment sarisataka Apr 2013 #53

Wrong. Machine guns are prohibited. moondust Apr 2013 #81

What makes you think people can't own machineguns or bazookas? X_Digger Apr 2013 #100

How did that work out? Fla_Democrat Apr 2013 #22

What's your proposed changes to the 2A? CokeMachine Apr 2013 #24

Just start the process and Congress will get very reasonable. Take action CK_John Apr 2013 #35

Thanks but -- CokeMachine Apr 2013 #45

Doesn't work that way Travelman Apr 2013 #59

Not so. The states can call for a constitutional convention without stating an agenda. CK_John Apr 2013 #88

"start the process and Congress will get very reasonable" Union Scribe Apr 2013 #156

How about we tax guns? kenny blankenship Apr 2013 #25

So you only want the 1%ers to be armed -- what could go wrong with that? nt CokeMachine Apr 2013 #33

The 1%ers have the US Army and NATO and you have pop guns kenny blankenship Apr 2013 #41

Swing and Miss. CokeMachine Apr 2013 #56

And in your plan, tens of thousands will continue to die every year kenny blankenship Apr 2013 #82

Cool story Bro!! CokeMachine Apr 2013 #137

Poll taxes were used to discourage certain people from exercising their right to vote badtoworse Apr 2013 #90

Problems with this... Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #154

Read the rules required to do it. Get back to me. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #29

see post 12 or Article V. CK_John Apr 2013 #40

When legislation fails, it's usually not a good idea to propose more extreme legislation. reformist2 Apr 2013 #30

Yeah, good luck with that Dpm12 Apr 2013 #34

The 21st Amendment restored a freedom that was taken away. William769 Apr 2013 #39

2/3 to start a petition, 3/4 to pass. My point is to start the process, not try to CK_John Apr 2013 #43

By all means start the process, but don't be surprised if the results disappoint you. slackmaster Apr 2013 #47

Good luck in your new Riftaxe Apr 2013 #44

Support for the repeal of the 2A is less than insignificant. nt Codeine Apr 2013 #55

FUCK THE NRA and their fucking sycophants. ARGO.... madinmaryland Apr 2013 #91

Any party that makes a move on amendments 1 though 10 will reap terrible electoral consequences. JVS Apr 2013 #93

Not going to happen, now or ever. nt Raine Apr 2013 #94

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #97

Amend or repeal? Throd Apr 2013 #98

Either, we just need to start the damm process to skake up Congress. CK_John Apr 2013 #102

Actually, I will worry about the details quite a bit. Throd Apr 2013 #109

It usually takes about 7yrs to get 38 states to petition, plenty of time to work on details. CK_John Apr 2013 #128

"Hey, let's repeal or amend constitutional rights, we'll sweat the details later." Me no like. Throd Apr 2013 #130

Wrong. onenote Apr 2013 #136

This message was self-deleted by its author mikegray Apr 2013 #118

Read article V to see how and who can change the constitution. Not POTUS or Congress. CK_John Apr 2013 #127

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #133

Since nobody is even attempting "to take away guns" your argument is bullshit. arcane1 Apr 2013 #135

As much as I would love for this to happen. geomon666 Apr 2013 #152

Actually, crime rates have been dropping for years. nt Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #155

Sorry you missed my point. Just starting the process will be enough to get CK_John Apr 2013 #157