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Douglas Carpenter

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100. If the perpetrator turns out to be white - there is not going be calls for military action against

Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:03 PM

Apr 2013

white people. Barack Obama will not be denounced for always bowing and scraping to white people. There is not going to be calls to racially profile white people. There will not be demands for the FBI to increase their surveillance of white churches and other white gathering spots. If one does not know that the public and the political system will react in a fundamentally more visceral way if this happens to be a Middle Eastern person than a white person who carried this out - they are not very observant of how things work down here on planet earth.

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I still hope the bomber is a white American By David Sirota for salon.com [View all] Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 OP

I posted this earlier today. The response was cali Apr 2013 #1

The Atlanta Olympic bombing and the Oaklahoma city bombing were both that. It will be whatever ever still_one Apr 2013 #2

Don't forget the Unibomber rightsideout Apr 2013 #61

This is a no brainer, home grown or war? Of course we hope it's an American. Exultant Democracy Apr 2013 #3

Not really. Straw Man Apr 2013 #23

I disagree with you 100% and agree with David, the Iraq & Afganistan body counts end this debate Exultant Democracy Apr 2013 #38

There are a lot of problems with that formulation. Straw Man Apr 2013 #40

He says it much more eloquently than I tried earlier NightWatcher Apr 2013 #4

if it is a muslim it's also likely you will get someone shooting Sikhs and other dark/muslim JI7 Apr 2013 #5

We already had that at Fort Hood a couple years back -- The fucker killed quite a few. whathehell Apr 2013 #10

that was still a military area, things are different when it's civilians and something JI7 Apr 2013 #16

which is ironic since sikhs and muslims golfguru Apr 2013 #46

As far as many American "Christians" are concerned: Gore1FL Apr 2013 #66

In short . . . wpelb Apr 2013 #47

1. I just hope he(she) and all conspirators are caught BootinUp Apr 2013 #6

David Sirota has achieved a new level in journalistic jackassery slackmaster Apr 2013 #7

Would you agree that the reaction would be different if the suspect turned out to be a white male Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #8

What difference does it make? slackmaster Apr 2013 #9

What difference does it make? Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #13

The 9/11 attackers were in fact Muslims from the Middle East who had backing from major terrorist... slackmaster Apr 2013 #15

Careful! you might get this thread banned to the dungeon, lol. BootinUp Apr 2013 #19

Right....and we still invaded Iraq even though Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #20

Invading Iraq made some semblence of sense. A majority of members of Congress voted for it. slackmaster Apr 2013 #31

"Invading Iraq made some semblence of sense" Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #33

Read the resolution for yourself. It turns out that many of the assumptions in it were not true. slackmaster Apr 2013 #34

I'm confused....what exactly was the connection to 9/11? Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #36

My uderstanding of Iraq invasion... golfguru Apr 2013 #50

Your facts are wrong Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #55

You mis-read my post golfguru Apr 2013 #65

Prevailing opinion AT THE TIME was heavily influenced by the 9/11 attacks Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #68

no that there were NEVER ANY Al Qaeda operative who EVER received ANY support from Saddam Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #67

Why don't you ask SoS Clinton? Fumesucker Apr 2013 #49

Exactly my point Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #54

No, Clinton got caught up in Presidential ambition Fumesucker Apr 2013 #57

Regardless of what you think were Clinton's motivations.... Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #58

Bush and Cheney were bound and determined to attack Iraq Fumesucker Apr 2013 #60

Had the 9/11 attacks not happened, Bush wouldn't have had the support for invasion Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #62

Eh, we already invaded Iraq once under Bush 41 Fumesucker Apr 2013 #64

Yes we did invade in the early 90's Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #71

Defending the Iraq war? Hugabear Apr 2013 #89

Geography challenged I see nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #79

The 9/11 hijackers were Saudi davidn3600 Apr 2013 #18

Did the Saudi government organize, harbor or equip them? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #26

Excellent question. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #45

Nope! Saudi gov't actually had arrest warrants out for OBL golfguru Apr 2013 #52

Yeah...He kind of specializes in it. n/t whathehell Apr 2013 #12

I don't think he was. He just pointed out what I siad last night on this very board... Ecumenist Apr 2013 #21

We still don't have any idea who did the Boston Marathon bombing, and a lot of people are filling... slackmaster Apr 2013 #32

Exactly, I am withholding judgement until the facts are in. smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #51

SLack, what are you saying? That I'm a BIGOT? REALLY? Are you HONESTLY trying to tell me Ecumenist Apr 2013 #93

I'm saying that your wild-assed guess about what kind of person did the bombing... slackmaster Apr 2013 #101

REALLY? And you guessed this HOW? I NEVER said that i knew who did it. I said that the treatment Ecumenist Apr 2013 #104

+100. n/t Skip Intro Apr 2013 #39

He also hopes the bomber looks exactly like him just1voice Apr 2013 #11

He's an ass...I heard him subbing for someone on Chicago Progressive Radio awhile back whathehell Apr 2013 #14

That's why MSM needed to falsely frame Muslims/Arabs right away, striking while the iron was hot. Zorra Apr 2013 #17

Complete and utter horseshit. The exact opposite is true RZM Apr 2013 #24

Yuh. Just like they did before we invaded Iraq. Zorra Apr 2013 #30

Interesting article; very true and well written MaineLinePhilly Apr 2013 #22

Can't blame him. Really, wouldn't we all kind of secretly hope that? n/t. Ken Burch Apr 2013 #25

So David Sirota thinks, along with some DUers, apparently kenny blankenship Apr 2013 #27

It is who it is treestar Apr 2013 #28

I think it's kinda messed up to hope for certain suspects for political reasons SpartanDem Apr 2013 #29

imagine the headline "I hope it's a arab muslim" octothorpe Apr 2013 #35

DU would flip it's shit SpartanDem Apr 2013 #37

If it is a White American there is NOT goint to be any outburst of anti-whtie prejudice Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #42

I wouldn't be so sure about the "fewer civil liberties" part. sylvi Apr 2013 #78

yes, because being white is america is exactly the same as being La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2013 #72

It's not the same, but I don't see how that makes one okay but not the other octothorpe Apr 2013 #76

it makes it ok, because the backlash against whites in america La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2013 #86

100% agree. TimberValley Apr 2013 #43

And this is why Salon isn't taken seriously LittleBlue Apr 2013 #41

Come on folks, Sirota is only stating the obvious -- Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #44

Rightwingers probably hope it's a Muslim guy named Carlos, who is from Guadalajara SoCalDem Apr 2013 #48

According to my calculations, if that's the precise demographics of the bomber.... Bucky Apr 2013 #56

Hey.. You forgot POLAND SoCalDem Apr 2013 #59

If its a white gun nutter will we JEB Apr 2013 #53

What a horrid and divisive article. nt Llewlladdwr Apr 2013 #63

is it or is it not true - that there will be a vastly different political reaction - if the Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #73

I neither know nor care. Llewlladdwr Apr 2013 #74

I think you do know Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #75

I think you're wrong. Llewlladdwr Apr 2013 #80

well there is some of that talk and it is really kind of silly and sometimes ugly Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #83

It isn't a desire to blame a white guy, per se. pnwmom Apr 2013 #77

I suppose anybody except an Arab or Muslim or even worse - a North Korean Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #82

I don't want to be scapegoated just because the truth may be unpleasant for some people. Llewlladdwr Apr 2013 #85

I have been an aging while male all my life!!. WE ARE NOT VICTIMS!! WE RULE THE WORLD!! Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #92

I'm sure everyone would be just as happy if it's an All-American white woman, even a white mother. pnwmom Apr 2013 #94

I simply can't agree with you pnwmom. Llewlladdwr Apr 2013 #97

whats horrid is pretending racism doesn't exist when it does. nt La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2013 #87

I agree. Llewlladdwr Apr 2013 #88

yeah, because anti-white racism is clearly a real thing La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2013 #91

No one wants to blame a NON-GUILTY person, either white or any other race. pnwmom Apr 2013 #98

that was well explained. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2013 #102

"Hoping" it's one race or nationality or another sylvi Apr 2013 #69

why are people outraged about this? is it because we have to admit La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2013 #70

He has a good point. alarimer Apr 2013 #81

I have no doubt about that now, TBH. AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #84

What an absurd thing to say. LisaL Apr 2013 #90

It may be the case, but I'd have plenty of questions. AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #96

LOL. This article draws the defenders/deniers of white male privilege like moths to the flame. morningfog Apr 2013 #95

Race-baiting usually does...white or black. Zax2me Apr 2013 #99

If the perpetrator turns out to be white - there is not going be calls for military action against Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #100

people who think white and black mean the same thing socially, politically La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2013 #103