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31. Deficient argument

Wed Apr 17, 2013, 11:20 PM

Apr 2013

People don't vote on one issue, and they know this. Politicians get their money and support from the NRA and the gun manufacturers. They'll be deprived of support and primaried if they don't comply with the powers that brought them to the dance. It's not about the people.

PS: Poll from February (Quinnipiac)

More than 90 percent of U.S. voters supported background checks for all gun buyers, while much smaller majorities were for stricter gun control laws such as bans on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, said a poll released on Thursday.

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By a margin of 92 percent to 7 percent, voters supported background checks, the Quinnipiac University telephone poll showed. In households with a gun, 91 percent were in favor, while 8 percent were opposed, Quinnipiac said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/07/us-usa-guns-poll-idUSBRE9160LW20130207

Also, Marist Poll from March, which clocks in at 84% support:

84% of Americans favor background checks for private gun sales and sales at gun
shows. 15% oppose the idea, and 2% are unsure. Even 81% of gun owners
nationally support such a measure.

http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/misc/usapolls/us130304/guns/Complete%20March%2013,%202013%20USA%20McClatchy_Marist%20Poll%20Release%20and%20Tables.pdf

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Further gun control failed because of the people, not the NRA. [View all] Skip Intro Apr 2013 OP

NRA spreads propaganda, elleng Apr 2013 #1

Who doesn't spread propaganda? What sources of information do you really trust? badtoworse Apr 2013 #43

Looks like a veiled pro NRA thread Kingofalldems Apr 2013 #2

Does it now? I do have as much right to an opinion as you, don't I? n/t Skip Intro Apr 2013 #5

So you agree the OP was opinion and not fact. upaloopa Apr 2013 #10

The OP was an observation based on logic and sourced fact. Skip Intro Apr 2013 #13

but not truth upaloopa Apr 2013 #16

please elaborate Skip Intro Apr 2013 #17

I just did upaloopa Apr 2013 #19

huh? Where? Skip Intro Apr 2013 #25

I added it to my post on edit. upaloopa Apr 2013 #30

Yep. Same ol'situation. n-notworthmyfuckingtime-t. laundry_queen Apr 2013 #6

More than tiresome, it's positively disgusting. Electric Monk Apr 2013 #8

Triumphalist shithead bangs pots and pan like an asshole alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #20

Par for the course from the OP Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #14

Well maybe after the next mass shooting we'll get it done. geomon666 Apr 2013 #3

No. They are mindful of who funds their campaigns. Today's vote was in support of gun manufacturers upaloopa Apr 2013 #4

They were dancing with them what brung em. (so to speak) Electric Monk Apr 2013 #9

With all respect, HORSE HOCKEY. "Eroding rights"?? What a load of utter BS. RBInMaine Apr 2013 #7

Fuck the lying NRA. Fuck guns. And fuck the every-gun-is-sacred misinterpretation of the 2nd amend. MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #11

First of all the legislation was essentially background checks, nothing else. Second, based on that still_one Apr 2013 #12

Please share a link for that 90% support. Thanks. n/t Skip Intro Apr 2013 #15

How's President Obama speaking today at the White House. That good enough for you? Electric Monk Apr 2013 #26

Link to the poll(s) please. n/t Skip Intro Apr 2013 #29

It took me only 2 minutes with google to find. Here you go. Electric Monk Apr 2013 #32

Lol. Frank Luntz Polling. Post 31 answered the question. n/t Skip Intro Apr 2013 #38

Usual shit of the usual gun nut assholes alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #18

NRA apologia/propaganda. It is the NRA and supporters like you that caused the failure. morningfog Apr 2013 #21

Maybe not the best day to do an "end zone dance" on this "victory". bullwinkle428 Apr 2013 #22

Not a victory dance. Just a politcial obvservation Skip Intro Apr 2013 #23

If polls showed consistently that 90% of Americans supported enhanced background checks frazzled Apr 2013 #24

Two things. Skip Intro Apr 2013 #28

Deficient argument frazzled Apr 2013 #31

Then I am left to conclude several Senators committed Skip Intro Apr 2013 #41

Here you go... it's not quite 90% but pretty damn close in this poll. jeffrey_pdx Apr 2013 #40

I'm saying politicians act in their own self-interest when Skip Intro Apr 2013 #44

Gallup says only 4% of Americans consider guns/gun violence to be the top problem facing the nation. Llewlladdwr Apr 2013 #27

Of course it is not the top priority. People want their basic needs met first. upaloopa Apr 2013 #34

But only 4% care enough to base their voting on it. Llewlladdwr Apr 2013 #37

I don't buy that. The legislation passed a majority vote. It was right wing blocking upaloopa Apr 2013 #45

Until the next pile of bodies or it hits close to home......... Historic NY Apr 2013 #36

Gotta become single issue voters for gun safety hepkat Apr 2013 #33

What poltician votes against the will of the people he/she represents Skip Intro Apr 2013 #35

All of them vote against their voters all the time hepkat Apr 2013 #42

It failed because the system is broken. Moses2SandyKoufax Apr 2013 #39

Those 90% polls are probably correct. rrneck Apr 2013 #46