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davidn3600

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33. We were never meant to be a democracy
Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:49 AM
Apr 2013

This is a republic. The Constitution formed a republic.

As James Madison wrote... the people sometimes do not know what is in their best interest and are many times too easily swayed.

This was a big concern among the founding fathers. They believed that ultimately the people are not wise enough and not well enough informed on the issues to make critical decisions for themselves. They believed that people would be too easily swayed by emotions or crafty politicians that have a gift of public speaking. In their view, the mob can easily trample the rights of the people just as easily as a King.

Were they wrong? Well...here is a good way to find out. Go outside on a busy street. Stop random Americans and ask them a few basic questions about our government, it's laws and policies. Ask to name a Supreme Court justice or even ask who their senators are. Who won the Civil War? Most Americans are tuned out of the political process. The answers you get to these kind of questions will scare you.

Most people are not well versed in history and don't follow politics like people in this message board do. 46% of the country didnt even both to vote at all in the last election.

"There are particular moments in public affairs when the people, stimulated by some irregular passion, or some illicit advantage, or misled by the artful misrepresentations of interested men, may call for measures which they themselves will afterwards be most ready to lament and condemn. In these critical moments, how salutary will be the interference of some temperate and respectable body of citizens, in order to check the misguided career and to suspend the blow meditated by the people against themselves, until reason, justice and truth can regain their authority over the public mind"
-James Madison
Federalist Papers #63

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Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #1
well yes there is that dsc Apr 2013 #2
"A republic" said Ben Franklin "if you can keep it." MrSlayer Apr 2013 #3
Wasn't it Ben who said... ReRe Apr 2013 #17
^^ this ^^ defacto7 Apr 2013 #19
Here's another one... ReRe Apr 2013 #22
Ben Franklin... defacto7 Apr 2013 #29
Do you know of a book that lists... ReRe Apr 2013 #31
No I don't defacto7 Apr 2013 #32
start your homilies with the banksters and corporatists. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #37
Homilies and quips from Ben can't touch those psycho-reptiles... ReRe Apr 2013 #40
they're the biggest borrowers in the world HiPointDem Apr 2013 #41
Yep... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #30
An IMPORTANT note regarding Nevada... Tx4obama Apr 2013 #4
that is why I have the endline of the post dsc Apr 2013 #5
Sorry, I will admit that I only read the first paragraph. My bad :( Tx4obama Apr 2013 #6
Indeed cbrer Apr 2013 #7
they already scraped it all together Amonester Apr 2013 #21
Is there a link to the NAMES of Senators who voted against the gun bill? KauaiK Apr 2013 #8
Here dsc Apr 2013 #9
Thanks DSC KauaiK Apr 2013 #12
It was so he can bring it up later dsc Apr 2013 #14
Popular support JayhawkSD Apr 2013 #10
there have been dozens of polls with backround checks dsc Apr 2013 #11
Yet only 4% percent of Americans consider guns/gun control to be the #1 issue facing the nation. Llewlladdwr Apr 2013 #15
One pollster showed though that more than half don't trust the government with it davidn3600 Apr 2013 #34
It's an issue that is always in the background of gun control... Pointy_n_sharp Apr 2013 #36
Sorry, JayhawkSD Apr 2013 #46
It has never been a Democracy. Majority rules in a Democracy for good or ill. TalkingDog Apr 2013 #13
But it's not Majority Rule. tblue Apr 2013 #18
No, it's Ritchie-Rich Rule. Amonester Apr 2013 #25
Legally and philosophically we are a Democratic Republic. In praxis, not TalkingDog Apr 2013 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author aaaaaa5a Apr 2013 #16
We've always been a republic, not a democracy. Kablooie Apr 2013 #20
There is no need for a Senate, anyway KingFlorez Apr 2013 #23
It's a republic hepkat Apr 2013 #24
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #26
Not everybody gets their way right away bhikkhu Apr 2013 #27
The Koch brothers and their ilk own state legislatures, own the US house and have a good grip on the Rowdyboy Apr 2013 #28
corporate fascism marions ghost Apr 2013 #49
We were never meant to be a democracy davidn3600 Apr 2013 #33
This again. "Republic" and "Democracy" are not contradictory. We are both. Recursion Apr 2013 #35
No, you need to stop pretending that you don't. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #38
Never was.... DeSwiss Apr 2013 #39
Its actually even worse than that. aaaaaa5a Apr 2013 #42
I didn't use the actual districts dsc Apr 2013 #43
Agreed. aaaaaa5a Apr 2013 #44
The Senate perserves state influence JayhawkSD Apr 2013 #47
we need to stop thinking there is a right-left paradigm Slit Skirt Apr 2013 #48
Here's your poll, 86% JayhawkSD Apr 2013 #50
We should be complaining about Mr. Reid and our hapless Dems. dawg Apr 2013 #51
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