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whathehell

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94. Whoah...Thanks for sharing that!

Thu Apr 18, 2013, 08:23 AM

Apr 2013

I most definitely will not go, then.

I knew that Juarez was dangerous...As I recall, something like 200 women murdered

in a matter of a couple years?...Hideous. I also knew they had a kidnap for ransom

thing going on in Mexico, in fact there was a very interesting documentary on tv about

a year ago...It concerned a middle class couple, he was Mexican, an architect I believe,

and she was an American, a schoolteacher, I think.

Anyway, they went down to live -- not in Juarez, but a chi chi expat haven -- San Miguel

Allende, I think, and he was kidnapped and held for ransom. He did survive, but it was a terrible

ordeal for both. It's why I roll my eyes when I hear of these middle class American retirees

planning to go to San Miguel Allende, thinking they're going to some paradise. As I recall,

the documentary indicated that there are many kidnappings there that don't get reported

by the mainstream media.

Again -- Thanks for the heads up.

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How can so many people on a "progressive" board want the right-wing to take over in Venezuela? [View all] Ken Burch Apr 2013 OP

Beats me...I haven't seen it here, but I believe you, and I'm certainly not for that. n/t whathehell Apr 2013 #1

It's easy. Here's the reason why . . . aggiesal Apr 2013 #70

Oh, I knew that, actually...I guess I was just hoping Kerry was a little better. whathehell Apr 2013 #82

Kidnap for ransom . . . aggiesal Apr 2013 #87

Whoah...Thanks for sharing that! whathehell Apr 2013 #94

I have a cousin . . . aggiesal Apr 2013 #96

I have friends in Venezuela and they are very happy to be living there. I can't wait to go there sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #111

I just want the truth. There is much question the result is legitimate or not. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #2

When right wing scum start caring about 'recounts' we know who is behind it. Caprilles is right wing sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #71

"The Ven. people have the cleanest elections in the civilized world." Don't be ridiculous. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #76

There is no problem with the elections in Venezuela. The right wing scum who have been sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #112

Capriles is not just slime he is scary slime. I know one of his cronies Exultant Democracy Apr 2013 #3

You'd be surprised...I've seen a LOT of highly questionable stuff posted on DU the past couple years Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #4

+1000 djean111 Apr 2013 #5

It is possible that people may support the ideological goals of Maduro's party geek tragedy Apr 2013 #6

Election SamKnause Apr 2013 #7

No one on an internet forum is "helping the sufrommich Apr 2013 #8

Because they are not "progressives" at all. Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #9

Yup. This is the "Democratic" Underground, not the "Progressive" Underground ConservativeDemocrat Apr 2013 #31

Actually, it should have been "for fascist" Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #34

what election fraud are you talking about? frylock Apr 2013 #46

Probably the fraud in their pants. Just a guess. JanMichael Apr 2013 #67

It's Democratic "Underground", not Democratic "Corporatist Working Group" grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #80

lol Love it. ctsnowman Apr 2013 #107

Oooooo we have a PERFECT fit. 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2013 #84

Progressives don't justify authoritarianism. joshcryer Apr 2013 #89

Years of election results you didn't like does not equate to "authoritarianism". Ken Burch Apr 2013 #109

Amen, brother. hifiguy Apr 2013 #113

Your typo reveals yourself. joshcryer Apr 2013 #117

The old grey whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #103

same reason they pimp guns, offshoring and think Obama rates 100% progressive Skittles Apr 2013 #10

Skittles, your problem is that you always pussy-foot around the issue instead of just telling us ... 11 Bravo Apr 2013 #14

Pretty much this. Marr Apr 2013 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2013 #48

I don't beat around the bush, devilgal Skittles Apr 2013 #56

YOU WANT I SHOULD KICK NAIVE KEN BURCH ASS, 11 BRAVO? Skittles Apr 2013 #58

yup tralala Apr 2013 #19

Eeyup. hifiguy Apr 2013 #32

LMFAO L0oniX Apr 2013 #37

the obama administration wants the "right wing to take over in Venezuela" hmmm nt msongs Apr 2013 #11

Ultimately, yes. Ken Burch Apr 2013 #12

Sadly, There Is Nothing Really New In That Liberal_Dog Apr 2013 #81

Yes...the American Imperialist Culture wants the RW to Take Over KoKo Apr 2013 #52

effective "red scare" campaign noiretextatique Apr 2013 #13

True. Some of these folks act like it's still 1947 Ken Burch Apr 2013 #23

Definately a longing for the Cold War days. As the US SoS and Churchill said, if you want to byeya Apr 2013 #27

Propaganda Machine by MSM in full Force..Look at Flub Up over KoKo Apr 2013 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author name not needed Apr 2013 #43

Progressive board?!? OMG, I thought it said conservative underground! Zorra Apr 2013 #15

When it comes to foreign policy, Americans are easily led by the media. reformist2 Apr 2013 #16

I think there are few right wing trolls who have kept up a relentless barrage of BlueToTheBone Apr 2013 #17

Yes, there are four or five people who never show up except to bash Chavez Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2013 #51

... BlueToTheBone Apr 2013 #61

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2013 #78

the same people pushing for war in iran, syria, etc. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #18

Appears to Me Most of the Threads/Replies of Which you Speak Come from One Member dballance Apr 2013 #20

Hiya. joshcryer Apr 2013 #90

LOL. nt. polly7 Apr 2013 #99

Oh look, my favorite substanceless hit and runner! joshcryer Apr 2013 #102

If any fraud occured, Capriles and company were behind it. Dawson Leery Apr 2013 #21

Six idiots is not a lot. Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #22

Because they believe the propaganda that our State Department Cleita Apr 2013 #24

They already ARE in, Chavez changed what they had to pay only a few percent. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #41

Yes, and that was enough for them to go after him. Even a little of that percent Cleita Apr 2013 #62

It's the principle of the thing.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #65

I'm barely fast and smart enough to keep tabs on what is going on my own political backyard. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #25

Third Wayers here, I guess. nt valerief Apr 2013 #26

Don't look at me Mnpaul Apr 2013 #28

Probably the same reason why some think Obama is a secret Republican..... AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #29

I don't think one equals the other. Chan790 Apr 2013 #39

I would say it is more likely they are blind supporters of The Icon n2doc Apr 2013 #49

Nope, and I stand by what I said(and TBH, it's probably really true, too.). n/t AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #72

I want the candidate who gets the most votes to be the winner. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #30

Simple really. bvar22 Apr 2013 #33

Accurate and succinct as usual. n/t Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #75

I would rather have the guy who can drive the bus TomClash Apr 2013 #35

all the polls said Maduro was winning in a huge landslide rainy Apr 2013 #36

Saw that. People parroting the "Chavez was a dictator" crap. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #38

Capitalism has its useful idiots across the political spectrum. Starry Messenger Apr 2013 #40

Indeed the late polls were as bogus as those for Rmoney malaise Apr 2013 #42

Because people are brainwashed by the media emsimon33 Apr 2013 #44

to be fair, it's really only two posters spamming the board with their bullshit frylock Apr 2013 #45

To be fair, I post in Lat. Am where 90%+ of posters don't go. joshcryer Apr 2013 #92

They already counted the votes. If Capriles had won by the margin Maduro won by Ken Burch Apr 2013 #110

No I would not. joshcryer Apr 2013 #116

You know it won't change anything, though. Ken Burch Apr 2013 #118

Okay... getting a little desperate there aren't you! whistler162 Apr 2013 #50

Didn't Jimmy Carter call Venezuelan elections the fairest in the world? socialist_n_TN Apr 2013 #55

Yes he did. grantcart Apr 2013 #60

Well then...so Much the better that John Kerry says "Need for Recount!" KoKo Apr 2013 #64

What an inconvenient memory you have there. n/t Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #83

The Carter Centers report on the 2012 elections is not favorable. joshcryer Apr 2013 #91

Yes, how dare everyone not fall in line behind Dear Leader's handpicked successor! tritsofme Apr 2013 #53

Our government assholes want a recount so that santamargarita Apr 2013 #54

Same reason the Top 10 Conservative Idiots went away. TransitJohn Apr 2013 #57

Some of us have Wondered about that...and some have asked... KoKo Apr 2013 #63

Care to expand? I'm intrigued, and want to understand the connection you are making. nt msanthrope Apr 2013 #73

a lot of it is because Obama is calling for the overthrow Doctor_J Apr 2013 #66

I honestly wonder about that. Puglover Apr 2013 #68

I think it grows less. DU has a higher level of Understanding KoKo Apr 2013 #74

They think american imperialism is a conspiracy theory? RedCappedBandit Apr 2013 #69

I wish that I had an Answer to your Post... KoKo Apr 2013 #77

Uhhhh, cuz they get paid to post????? grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #79

That post is not credible laborinvain Apr 2013 #85

Whatever you say, 26 posts! grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #104

socialism has been good for Venzula hepkat Apr 2013 #86

How can so many people confuse discomfort with Chavismo with wanting a right wing takeover? (nt) Recursion Apr 2013 #88

History. The influence of money. Staring down the downside of capitalism and its insatiable hunger TheKentuckian Apr 2013 #105

Uh...because we remember what "discomfort" with the Sandinistas, Allende, Bosch and Arbenz led to? Ken Burch Apr 2013 #115

K&R idwiyo Apr 2013 #93

Good question. nt LWolf Apr 2013 #95

propaganda works. nt killbotfactory Apr 2013 #97

Not always. polly7 Apr 2013 #100

Well hey . . . HughBeaumont Apr 2013 #98

Easy. They are not progressive. Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #101

Same reason so many people on this board accused Chavez of being a dictator Hugabear Apr 2013 #106

It really is just a few. The same few you will notice who try to excuse cuts to social programs, who sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #114

Because they are not progressive. eom roody Apr 2013 #108

Because they don't know anything about the political parties involved? Rex Apr 2013 #119