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36. More likely Leopold and Loeb types: cool because arrogant, but not as smart as they think they are

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:04 AM

Apr 2013

Professionals wouldn't be so visible. Professionals wouldn't wear identifiable items like the backwards white cap, which allows one to pick him out of every damn pic taken that day. Professionals don't get seen dropping packages. Professionals bomb the place when the actual race leaders are finishing. These guys are a pair, folie-a-deux types, Modern day Leopold and Loeb. Probably rich, smart, well educated.

They act cool because they're sociopaths, not professionals.

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I hate to say it, but it is starting to look like these guys were professionals [View all] quinnox Apr 2013 OP

CIA expert on MSNBC says they were too cool. grasswire Apr 2013 #1

Or valium AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #76

When the reports start linking them to "Iran"...guess who? Purveyor Apr 2013 #2

Spell it out. What are you saying...nt SidDithers Apr 2013 #18

Stay tuned... eom Purveyor Apr 2013 #30

Yeah, that's what I thought... SidDithers Apr 2013 #42

"What do we want to regulate?" demwing Apr 2013 #93

It wasn't Iran or agents from Iran. In fact that no one has claimed responsibility makes me believe still_one Apr 2013 #44

He's basically calling it a Mossad "false flag." He is implying Israel is behind this. Behind the Aegis Apr 2013 #65

Or a future Republican talking point AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #78

Doubtful. Were it Arabs or Muslims, that would be a Republican talking point. Behind the Aegis Apr 2013 #81

I think you missed my point AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #83

Yes, I must have. Behind the Aegis Apr 2013 #84

The Republicans would claim IRAN was responsible AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #85

Oh..OK, gotcha. Behind the Aegis Apr 2013 #86

"basically and implying", indeed. You sell your crystal balls on ebay so others can possess your Purveyor Apr 2013 #104

Then what were you saying? Put my Ebay crystal ball sales out of business. Behind the Aegis Apr 2013 #105

You know exactly what I'm saying. You and the your 'friends' would have whacked themselves Purveyor Apr 2013 #114

This message was self-deleted by its author Behind the Aegis Apr 2013 #115

Pros don't leave so many muddy footprints. nt Xipe Totec Apr 2013 #3

Unless they are trying to lay a false trail n/t Fumesucker Apr 2013 #9

They must be 11th dimensional chess pawns to lay that thick a trail nt Xipe Totec Apr 2013 #12

That's what puzzles me deutsey Apr 2013 #91

The fact that they tried to rob a 7-11 last night shows they hadn't planned what would happen next Xipe Totec Apr 2013 #94

Yeah...I'll be interested in hearing what pushed them into such desperation n/t deutsey Apr 2013 #96

Your post deserves one response TMDUS DURHAM D Apr 2013 #4

Your post counteracts the OP and preserves DU TheProgressive Apr 2013 #7

Oh bullshit, speculation has run rampant here since the bombing first happened Fumesucker Apr 2013 #28

Why? Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #77

What makes DU Suck? demwing Apr 2013 #95

Don't know how anyone could tell that they were calm, elleng Apr 2013 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author Tx4obama Apr 2013 #6

I can't get the vid to work -- who is Sunil? anneboleyn Apr 2013 #11

Missing Person flyer for Sunil. Chan790 Apr 2013 #23

that is ridiculous... choie Apr 2013 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #21

No, they don't look alike--but for some reason you keep posting this in various threads. nt tblue37 Apr 2013 #37

They dont look even remotely alike. idwiyo Apr 2013 #98

Blazing white ball cap and tons of pictures taken of your face? Lex Apr 2013 #8

Yes...that white cap was a big mistake. dkf Apr 2013 #31

Professionals would have taken care to respond in the same way as the people around them. n/t winter is coming Apr 2013 #10

I heard that guy KT2000 Apr 2013 #13

I appreciate your opinion, and also this confirmation about that interview quinnox Apr 2013 #22

I saw that interview. The transcript will be up on CNN's site in a couple of hours. Turborama Apr 2013 #54

Yea, she did have an excited reaction quinnox Apr 2013 #60

Maybe this is linked to the story CNN was pushing and then walked back on. texanwitch Apr 2013 #70

I wonder if the reason for them trying to make the link is because she LiberalFighter Apr 2013 #87

I heard someone talking about this on CNN also. texanwitch Apr 2013 #66

I won't even entertain that notion. defacto7 Apr 2013 #14

hard to say.... microbus Apr 2013 #15

Yes, this. Lex Apr 2013 #17

I concede that is a good point quinnox Apr 2013 #24

Let's face it they might be in another country by now flamingdem Apr 2013 #16

Professional IDIOTS soon to be .... MindMover Apr 2013 #20

Sorry, this is strictly amateur hour NV Whino Apr 2013 #25

I think so too.. "Pros" would have made sure they were not identified SoCalDem Apr 2013 #55

And no white hat NV Whino Apr 2013 #58

yep.. two cocky bastards SoCalDem Apr 2013 #72

What qualifies you to make that call? NightWatcher Apr 2013 #26

I am not in that field at all, this is just pure speculation on my part quinnox Apr 2013 #33

My guess is these are two "smart guys" from one of the colleges in Boston NightWatcher Apr 2013 #39

no problem quinnox Apr 2013 #45

We all watch a lot of tv/movies and there is a certain empowerment from speculating NightWatcher Apr 2013 #50

Kind of a Leopold and Loeb thing? Lex Apr 2013 #48

Privledged, smart guys (or so they think) NightWatcher Apr 2013 #53

I'm starting to think so too. Starry Messenger Apr 2013 #82

I am thinking you are on to something. smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #103

Highly doubtful honestly Spider Jerusalem Apr 2013 #73

Now it is Al Qaeda sarisataka Apr 2013 #27

Of course, I change my opinion as more information is released quinnox Apr 2013 #32

From experience I believe sarisataka Apr 2013 #38

I hope you are right quinnox Apr 2013 #47

Agreed sarisataka Apr 2013 #52

I am sticking with homegrown and am willing to be proven wrong, which I doubt will happen. bluestate10 Apr 2013 #59

The fact that no one has taken credit is jaysunb Apr 2013 #29

Even psychopaths and sociopaths (as they have been called) can understand Opsec ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #41

They weren't professional Oilwellian Apr 2013 #34

Speculation... MrMickeysMom Apr 2013 #35

I am glad someone else is thinking this. texanwitch Apr 2013 #51

they got the poison letter guy. no connection. an elvis impersonator with a history of harrassing HiPointDem Apr 2013 #74

More likely Leopold and Loeb types: cool because arrogant, but not as smart as they think they are alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #36

I think that is some good points quinnox Apr 2013 #43

Leopold and Loeb came to my mind right away JenniferJuniper Apr 2013 #46

I thought of the L&L case today! Arrogant sociopath types. Harris and Klebold. anneboleyn Apr 2013 #79

It seems to that the first thing a pro would do is LuvNewcastle Apr 2013 #100

Some training or practice, maybe. Pros, clearly not ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #40

My thoughts were Mumbai attack. Separation Apr 2013 #49

No, they're a bunch of fucking amateurs. slackmaster Apr 2013 #56

If they were amatures I'd hate to see what pros could do davepc Apr 2013 #57

Pros would killed a lot more than three people, while either never being seen or blowing bluestate10 Apr 2013 #67

The Mossad hit squad that killed Mahmoud Al-Mabhouh davepc Apr 2013 #71

Do you have proof? I know that the Arab govt's in question never proved anything. Behind the Aegis Apr 2013 #80

You have seen the work of professional terrorists. September 11, 2001. slackmaster Apr 2013 #101

I guess some ordinary guys.... Paul E Ester Apr 2013 #61

I doubt it, we dont know if those two are true suspects larkrake Apr 2013 #62

Photo of White Cap with Martin Richard and family in foreground? JenniferJuniper Apr 2013 #64

One of their victims ID'ed the stupid white cap coward Amonester Apr 2013 #69

Number #2 reminds of Waldo. rightsideout Apr 2013 #63

The "darker" skinned guy had a black cap pulled down on his head. What I noticed is that bluestate10 Apr 2013 #68

it doesn't look at all like they were professionals. professionals don't make themselves so obvious HiPointDem Apr 2013 #75

Obviously not perfect, since they got caught. Their coolness: youth. Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #88

Still just look like crazy-assed white guys to me. txwhitedove Apr 2013 #89

Pros would have been long gone by the time the bombs went off. They would at least be out of state. hobbit709 Apr 2013 #90

Why stick around Boston? Esp. an area THAT close to the bombings?? Roland99 Apr 2013 #92

I hate to say it, Codeine Apr 2013 #97

+1 ! idwiyo Apr 2013 #99

LOL. Do they SMELL like professionals? FSogol Apr 2013 #102

Lulz. End thread. Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #108

But a couple days ago you said you could smell that it was American right-wingers. What changed? Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #106

IBTSD FSogol Apr 2013 #107

I'm learning that some posts in here should be immediately screen captured. Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #109

Just wait a few hours. Some people can't help themselves. n/t FSogol Apr 2013 #110

They had no escape plan. That is not professional. kwassa Apr 2013 #111

If they had been pros they would be out of the country by now. yellowcanine Apr 2013 #112

Professional teabaggers? Professional RW white supremacists? Codeine Apr 2013 #113

Apparently it is "you know who" behind this. (Rhymes with "you" and "who"). See above. Behind the Aegis Apr 2013 #116