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Savannahmann

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68. Take one of my examples.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 10:00 AM
Apr 2013

Take Abortion. Every election, we have to rush to the polls to protect a womans right to do with her body as she pleases. Every week, I get emails telling me if I don't donate, we will lose this precious right that we have. Every week I get those emails.

Yet, when Rethugs are elected, nothing happens. When they held the House and Senate and White House, we didn't lose that right. Oh sure, they talk about Supreme Court nominee's. But even the Conservatives say that Abortion isn't going to be changed at the court. We've had the right too long to really lose it now.

They may reduce funding, but they aren't getting at the rights of the woman. But, every single week, I get emails telling me that is exactly what the Rethugs are up to, and I have to donate, I have to to take action to stop the Rethugs.

On the flip side, you know the Rethugs are getting the exact same email telling them that if they don't donate, they will never stop Abortions. Tens of millions of dollars are raised this way every year, and nothing changes. Is it because our side is donating as much as their side? No, it's because both sides are using it to raise money, to scare us to the polls.

The claim that Obama is socialist and going to shred the Constitution is laughable. He is using the same laws that Bush used, and those same laws we protested when Bush was in power.

As I said above, and will repeat now. Our side is not nearly as outrageous as their side, and I agree with the issues our side is pushing. But at the same time, I know our side is using fear mongering, not as much as their side, but using it just the same. Do you really expect me to believe that Abortion hinges on me making a donation this week? If I don't make it, the world will shift, and women will lose their right to choose?

Both sides use the issue, one they have no intention of ever settling one way or the other with any finality. They use it because they need the issue to scare us to the polls.

For the sake of argument, lets say that the Supreme Court rules that there is a Constitutional Right to Gay Marriage. I don't know how they will rule. But if they rule in our favor, do you think that Gay Marriage will become a settled matter? No, we'll still get emails every week outlining this weeks Rethug who will take away this right if we don't donate money right now.

Bucky, take a look at where we are, and why nothing ever gets fixed. The reason is not because of gridlock, or the filibuster rule. It's because if things get fixed, there is no cudgel to get us to donate or get us to the polls with.

We had a majority of both houses, we had the Presidency. We had momentum. We didn't fix anything, because the Politicians would have nothing to promote as reasons for you to get out and vote, and donate, if it was fixed.

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ya if the system wasn't ineffective they would try to make it ineffective. nt limpyhobbler Apr 2013 #1
I agree. darkangel218 Apr 2013 #2
Congress exists to serve its corporate masters nt LiberalEsto Apr 2013 #3
That's it in a nutshell. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #12
Infuriating, but true. nt City Lights Apr 2013 #14
As do far too many today. The lines between American values & Wall St's have been blurred. raouldukelives Apr 2013 #63
Nipsy Russell 4Q2u2 Apr 2013 #4
The system is very frustrating, very resistant to change, but we're almost there. reformist2 Apr 2013 #5
How are we almost there? Arugula Latte Apr 2013 #26
'Almost there' in the cultural sense - this is a BIG country, we have to take the long view. reformist2 Apr 2013 #29
Almost WHERE? To the point where the top 100 families TBF Apr 2013 #45
yes Locrian Apr 2013 #6
Exactly. n/t Triana Apr 2013 #15
I got this from you - thanks! n/t Locrian Apr 2013 #61
Wish I could recommend your post. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #17
The Party of "NO" is still AsahinaKimi Apr 2013 #7
People? lark Apr 2013 #33
Its DiFI (Your so called Freak) AsahinaKimi Apr 2013 #37
I know lark Apr 2013 #39
Though I have mixed emotions when AsahinaKimi Apr 2013 #41
I moved from CA in 1989, one week before the quake. lark Apr 2013 #43
You were lucky.. AsahinaKimi Apr 2013 #44
You Mean The Illuminati? Or The Lizard People? The Molemen? Oh, You Must Mean The Greys Skraxx Apr 2013 #8
Instead of being outlandish, MadHound Apr 2013 #9
Nah, My Way Is Much More Fun! Join In! Skraxx Apr 2013 #10
Sounds like you can't answer a simple question. Wind Dancer Apr 2013 #70
What Question is That? Skraxx Apr 2013 #74
I thought it was the Masons. Bobbie Jo Apr 2013 #23
They're Really Just A Subgroup Skraxx Apr 2013 #24
Noted. Bobbie Jo Apr 2013 #31
Good job... zeemike Apr 2013 #49
Is that "The Truth" the "Truth" the "truth" or "da twoof"? Skraxx Apr 2013 #50
Then proceed to ridicule. zeemike Apr 2013 #52
My! Such A Sourpuss! Skraxx Apr 2013 #53
And continue the ridicule as long as anyone will listen to it. zeemike Apr 2013 #55
Ridicule? Skraxx Apr 2013 #56
Pretend not to understand. zeemike Apr 2013 #57
LOL! I'm Trying To Intimidate and Shut Down Conversation? Skraxx Apr 2013 #58
Then what are you doing here? zeemike Apr 2013 #59
You're Gonna Get All Ontological On Me? Skraxx Apr 2013 #60
The only things that get done are; Corporate sponsored, people harmful I.E. Monsanto enabling Vincardog Apr 2013 #11
So they have something to hide behind when the do the bidding of greedy corprats Triana Apr 2013 #13
I don't know about "the powers that be" (Is that a club?), but in general snooper2 Apr 2013 #16
The Constitution is drafted to encourage gridlock and dysfunction. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #18
The Constitution insures that change proceeds at a glacial pace. Ikonoklast Apr 2013 #35
When the Dems threatened to filibuster under Bush... GeorgeGist Apr 2013 #19
"The Frozen Republic" kenny blankenship Apr 2013 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author rhett o rick Apr 2013 #21
TPTB want mass chaos and division amongst the little people. stillwaiting Apr 2013 #22
That's exactly what they want. LuvNewcastle Apr 2013 #25
I actually think that part was written into the constitution... Taverner Apr 2013 #27
Republicans do treestar Apr 2013 #28
So everyone knows the problem sorefeet Apr 2013 #30
I've considered it a lot because I've seen it happen in other countries Cleita Apr 2013 #32
The failure of the Senate as a functional body is 100% on Reid at this point. Moostache Apr 2013 #34
60/40? dothemath Apr 2013 #36
Of course. If they wanted to help us, they could. And they don't. So they won't. nt valerief Apr 2013 #38
OF COURSE that's what the powers that be want! RevStPatrick Apr 2013 #40
Because he'd rather dance with them than fight them. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #42
Absolutely. The Conservative powers at least. apnu Apr 2013 #46
This is what they want... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #47
Actually, MH, I know for a fact that this is what they want. Zorra Apr 2013 #48
Well it sure has been working. zeemike Apr 2013 #51
Yes many of us have considered it... ljm2002 Apr 2013 #54
Actually, I think it is also to get us to the polls. Savannahmann Apr 2013 #62
Yes, as you say... ljm2002 Apr 2013 #69
Presuming intelligent design in the power struggles in Washington seems naive Bucky Apr 2013 #64
Why? MadHound Apr 2013 #65
If you posted your "plenty of evidence" instead of asking loaded rhetorical questions... Bucky Apr 2013 #66
Actually I was asking you a serious question, MadHound Apr 2013 #67
Take one of my examples. Savannahmann Apr 2013 #68
I don't doubt both sides use the issue for fund raising. That's not the same... Bucky Apr 2013 #73
Well yeah, you heard that asshole Norquist. MrSlayer Apr 2013 #71
Congress = useful idiots. L0oniX Apr 2013 #72
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