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Lionessa

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13. Geez, you love to generalize.

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 02:46 PM

Feb 2012

I know two adult men who've chosen late-in-life circumcision, not for this reason, but nonetheless had them snipped.

I know zero men who were snipped that have even wanted to put it back, though I've certainly read about a few who have.

BTW: I did a ton of research and personal interviews when I found out my last child was a boy and I was going to have to make that decision for him. I visited with probably 250-300 men, quite literally as a pregnant woman opening the conversation to any man and every man that was around, stores, park, anywhere. Being pregnant, they all seemed to understand why I'd ask, and very few didn't answer.

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"The goal is to circumcise 20 million African men by 2015..." [View all] slackmaster Feb 2012 OP

lol! And THAT for the teeny tiny turtleneck worshippers! aquart Feb 2012 #1

ritual mutilation in the name of $$ - changing sex habits would be more effective nt msongs Feb 2012 #2

And... slackmaster Feb 2012 #3

Wow, that's the argument that's made for ending women's sexual/body rights. We just need to change Lionessa Feb 2012 #5

thanks lionessa pitohui Feb 2012 #15

actually its only a specific strategy to stop the spread of specfic disease and has nothing to do msongs Feb 2012 #23

And far more difficult, too. MineralMan Feb 2012 #8

Geez, you love to generalize. Lionessa Feb 2012 #13

I got it done at 18 customerserviceguy Feb 2012 #14

Lionessa, if you knew me, that would be one. MNBrewer Feb 2012 #41

Ah, but I don't and I did already concede to having read about some that feel as you, Lionessa Feb 2012 #46

That their opinion would be "most valid" because they got to make an adult choice MNBrewer Feb 2012 #48

No, it's just quite simply that they are the only ones that have experiential comparison Lionessa Feb 2012 #51

All the more reason to do the hysterectomies in infancy MNBrewer Feb 2012 #52

Wow, you're really try hard to put words in other folks' mouths. Good luck with that. Lionessa Feb 2012 #55

I'm just curious SaintPete Feb 2012 #44

Would tats also be considered mutilation? Hey, what about so much of the vanity dentistry? Lionessa Feb 2012 #47

All because the Pope doesn't like condoms. Quantess Feb 2012 #4

I've never met the Pope, but none of the other men I've met like them either. Lionessa Feb 2012 #6

I never had any problem with condoms. MineralMan Feb 2012 #7

You are rare. Lionessa Feb 2012 #9

Am I? Condom sales would tend to contradict that, I think. MineralMan Feb 2012 #11

Well I've had a pretty wide sampling in my life, mostly when Lionessa Feb 2012 #12

Need overcomes preference. MineralMan Feb 2012 #17

Since you're agreeing, why do you sound so disagreeable in the presentation? Lionessa Feb 2012 #18

Maybe you're reading the words with the wrong MineralMan Feb 2012 #22

Lots Of Men Pressure Women Into Unprotected Sex Under The Guise Of It Feel Better DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2012 #31

I have no doubt that there are men who do that. MineralMan Feb 2012 #63

You Should Read About Men On The Down Low Or DL As It Is Often Called DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2012 #70

!!! Bucky Feb 2012 #49

Wow, you know the Pope? Ikonoklast Feb 2012 #10

Not 'all because'; Catholicism isn't the only sect or religion in Africa muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #19

Well, as long as they don't bomb the moon, it's cool. downwardly_mobile Feb 2012 #16

Indoor plumbing, soap and clean water would do the same. Cleita Feb 2012 #20

Well no they wouldn't Spider Jerusalem Feb 2012 #25

I realize there is that, however, I still think hygiene and condoms would Cleita Feb 2012 #34

Well... Spider Jerusalem Feb 2012 #39

Yes, but hygine is still an issue, Europe doesn't have such rates of hetrosexual HIV transmission. joshcryer Feb 2012 #37

You can't actually make that correlation, I'm afraid Spider Jerusalem Feb 2012 #40

The 10% immunity is directly reflected in the 40% hetro transmission rate in EU. Meanwhile... joshcryer Feb 2012 #45

That doesn't actually disprove anything I've said Spider Jerusalem Feb 2012 #54

And drug use (needle sharing) has what to do with circumcision, how? joshcryer Feb 2012 #56

Not necessarily Spider Jerusalem Feb 2012 #57

I've worked with some of the people doing the research and implimenting this program. Iterate Feb 2012 #58

Thanks for the post. Perhaps my desire to see African living standard improve... joshcryer Feb 2012 #59

If there was any one thing, I was most surprised to learn how interrealated it all is. Iterate Feb 2012 #60

circumcision prevents aids and a double mastectomy ldf Feb 2012 #21

Are You Really Comparing Circumicision To A Radical Mastetomy On Both Breasts? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2012 #26

I agree. Two ounces of prevention MNBrewer Feb 2012 #42

The Other Gentleman Didn't Answer DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2012 #43

I don't know MNBrewer Feb 2012 #50

Maybe because it's medically indicated DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2012 #61

How is it medically indicated sosilly Feb 2012 #67

There's A Reasonable Chance He Might Grow Up And Grown Ups Are Known To Have Sex. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2012 #68

If anyone wants to take a moment to explain to me why this is true and how it works... Capitalocracy Feb 2012 #24

The foreskin tears in intercourse causing bleeding. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2012 #27

I Thought That The Foreskin Traps The HiV Virus DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2012 #30

A combination of factors: Spider Jerusalem Feb 2012 #32

The Forsekin In An Uncircumcised Penis Gives The HIV Virus A Warm Place To Harbor DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2012 #28

That's just the tip of it Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #29

First we need to get our heads around the problem Major Nikon Feb 2012 #33

There might even be an uprising...or an explosion! jillan Feb 2012 #35

Condoms work better and also prevent pregnancy. JVS Feb 2012 #36

Have You Ever Researched Condom Compliance In Africa Or Even Certain Segments Of America? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2012 #38

If foreskins were as maladaptive as the forced circumcision advocates would have us believe MNBrewer Feb 2012 #53

Like the appendix? frustrated_lefty Feb 2012 #62

The invention of clothing has made the foreskin superfluous slackmaster Feb 2012 #64

Maybe Man Needed His Foreskin DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2012 #69

I think the loincloth is overdue for a comeback slackmaster Feb 2012 #71

I Saw Somebody Post A Sentiment Similar To What I Originallly Posted And Thought It Was Hilarious DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2012 #72

Notice the article says men, and not boys. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #65

Next thing you know they'll be opening Olive Gardens all over Africa. TheManInTheMac Feb 2012 #66