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76. The "game" is life in America

Reply to Shankapotomus (Reply #73)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:23 PM

Apr 2013

And the only way not to play is to be a total hermit.

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LOSERS, not able to settle themselves, so, they hated everyone else who did [View all] bigtree Apr 2013 OP

Ruslan Tsarni - a well-spoken man wanting to get out in front of the media storm. randome Apr 2013 #1

it was a brilliant statement bigtree Apr 2013 #4

good. that is what i want to hear. because i believe that is ALL this is and bullshit with the seabeyond Apr 2013 #8

Up till now, nobody would call these two losers. LisaL Apr 2013 #9

All the money and fame in the world and you can still be a loser inside. randome Apr 2013 #19

Well that would apply to everybody, woudn't it? LisaL Apr 2013 #23

Yes. Anyone you know but are unable to telepathically monitor is capable of being a loser. randome Apr 2013 #27

it would IF everyone were losers. but we are not. many of us live a winner kinda mentality seabeyond Apr 2013 #29

I think he made a more important point bigtree Apr 2013 #22

But does it make it the truth? LisaL Apr 2013 #25

depends on what question you are trying to answer bigtree Apr 2013 #42

He has no credibility making that assertion because he hadn't seen them in years. snagglepuss Apr 2013 #93

hmm bigtree Apr 2013 #100

That is an uncle in Russia not the one who spoke to the media. snagglepuss Apr 2013 #102

i think they absolutely would the older brother. seabeyond Apr 2013 #26

Seriously? LisaL Apr 2013 #31

have you watched two brothers grow and interact with each other? i have had a lifetime seabeyond Apr 2013 #33

How do you call a medical student a loser malaise Apr 2013 #30

doesnt the youngest become a loser when he participates in THIS? lol. i think the seabeyond Apr 2013 #34

True malaise Apr 2013 #37

absolutely. i think so. if the kids had the back bone to say... fuck that. my life is on track. seabeyond Apr 2013 #39

Well it's all over now malaise Apr 2013 #41

How can he be a medical student at 19? karynnj Apr 2013 #60

Pre-med I suspect but malaise Apr 2013 #68

Father could be confused. LisaL Apr 2013 #72

True but all I've heard in recent days is malaise Apr 2013 #109

Marine Biology could be pre-med. LisaL Apr 2013 #117

From what I read he was a nursing student. snagglepuss Apr 2013 #94

To me, a loser is someone who lacks heart and integrity. nt Zorra Apr 2013 #67

He was in his second year of undergraduate work siligut Apr 2013 #91

It's pretty easy GaYellowDawg Apr 2013 #106

Valid point - lots of losers with criminal minds malaise Apr 2013 #111

He wasn't exactly a medical student. smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #110

I thought the older guy was attending a community college. Skidmore Apr 2013 #114

Tsarni seemed well aware of those kinds of misconceptions. randome Apr 2013 #15

That is my gut feeling. n/t ChazII Apr 2013 #86

by definition, I think anyone who blows up people is a homocidal shithead, not to mention a "loser" Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #56

These two don't look like losers to me. They were involved, had goals. snagglepuss Apr 2013 #87

he had a more measured interview today bigtree Apr 2013 #89

He gave the media his time, I hope they live him alone now... dorkzilla Apr 2013 #2

He answered their questions and asked for respect. randome Apr 2013 #6

I would like to hear the uncle answer one question ...WHY DID THE BOY"S FATHER Tippy Apr 2013 #88

Well, he'll be forever linked to terrorists justiceischeap Apr 2013 #3

i do not think so. we will see. and i get what you are saying. but we ALL have the family seabeyond Apr 2013 #12

Exactly. Amaril Apr 2013 #77

Very powerful and moving. n/t cynatnite Apr 2013 #5

But is it true? LisaL Apr 2013 #7

I didn't see the uncle deutsey Apr 2013 #10

right. i get the older brother brought the younger in. the younger probably could seabeyond Apr 2013 #18

He was "a nice quiet boy," according to the uncle deutsey Apr 2013 #32

living in texas, i know a couple young men, 26ish and older, that are disillusioned seabeyond Apr 2013 #38

at that age it's routine to be out of school and working. if he had a kid and a wife he wasn't able bettyellen Apr 2013 #105

But they obviously didn't feel successful CJCRANE Apr 2013 #14

Obviously? LisaL Apr 2013 #20

If you feel you are achieving what you want in life CJCRANE Apr 2013 #24

It sounds like the uncle is estranged from the boys' family. avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #17

Do you not understand marions ghost Apr 2013 #48

He retired boxing after limited success- had a wife who he wasn't supporting (she lived with her bettyellen Apr 2013 #95

+1000, Interesting comment. smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #11

except that not what anyone who knew the younger one says. not a one cali Apr 2013 #13

Exactly. LisaL Apr 2013 #16

again, like i said in a post above. the older brother brought younger in. i can see that. loser seabeyond Apr 2013 #21

yes, I said that a while ago in another post cali Apr 2013 #28

Agreed. I don't think those two brothers had any real religious DinahMoeHum Apr 2013 #35

As has been pointed out in this very thread, the younger brother was quite popular Fumesucker Apr 2013 #40

Ahem marions ghost Apr 2013 #51

At least I didn't call her "Snookie" like some female DUer did a little while back Fumesucker Apr 2013 #53

nah. just the size of a gfs chest is indicative of your worth. i mean, wtf? nt seabeyond Apr 2013 #57

Of course it is gaspee Apr 2013 #63

+1 redqueen Apr 2013 #80

I wasn't trying to be negative, go take it up with the woman who called her "Snookie" Fumesucker Apr 2013 #66

lol seabeyond Apr 2013 #69

I think I'm a lot like your older son, serious mostly, don't make friends easily Fumesucker Apr 2013 #71

lol lol seabeyond Apr 2013 #79

Nasty marions ghost Apr 2013 #75

That could be the next debate: the role of social media in radicalizing people. nt CJCRANE Apr 2013 #43

and THIS... i totally agree. i have been discussing this. seeing the ripple turn into a wave. seabeyond Apr 2013 #55

Also IMO the authorities need to monitor social media more effectively CJCRANE Apr 2013 #59

that's as close as we'll get to understanding this; to remind of the utter selfishness of the act bigtree Apr 2013 #47

Where is there any indication they were alienated or disillusioned? snagglepuss Apr 2013 #92

both made comments - older no AMerican friends (don't understand them) younger 10 years in USA and bettyellen Apr 2013 #99

The older one married an American girl who converted. And I heard interviews snagglepuss Apr 2013 #101

Was he living with his wife? Working? To me it sounds like he had nothing going on except dashed bettyellen Apr 2013 #103

Excellent analysis. smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #112

we all know people who are mildly like this- take no responsibility for their problems, who have bettyellen Apr 2013 #116

I would live next door to that guy. GitRDun Apr 2013 #36

Yea. Riiiiiiiight. Zax2me Apr 2013 #44

I think the alienation comes first. The ideology comes next CJCRANE Apr 2013 #46

Losers and Winners, that's what America is all about Fumesucker Apr 2013 #45

Agree marions ghost Apr 2013 #49

I think that you'd be hard pressed to put some deep reflective meaning behind such an act bigtree Apr 2013 #50

It wasn't the act I was speaking of but the terminology and attitudes behind that terminology Fumesucker Apr 2013 #52

that didn't look to be the intent of the uncle in using that term bigtree Apr 2013 #54

But you liked the terminology enough to repeat it and praise it Fumesucker Apr 2013 #58

you focused on one word bigtree Apr 2013 #61

Since we think in language then language to a big extent determines how we think Fumesucker Apr 2013 #62

Am I the only one that thinks older brother seemed aimless and adrift? Not having a home with bettyellen Apr 2013 #96

As someone who doesn't really "fit" in the culture that surrounds me I understand that alienation Fumesucker Apr 2013 #97

yeah, I feel lucky to live in NYC where there's a niche for everyone.... bettyellen Apr 2013 #98

I hear you. I find myself isolating a lot for those very same reasons. smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #113

It is possible marions ghost Apr 2013 #65

You can't be a loser if Shankapotomus Apr 2013 #73

The "game" is life in America Fumesucker Apr 2013 #76

And your point is? Shankapotomus Apr 2013 #81

On top of my head, obviously Fumesucker Apr 2013 #82

Now THAT is cutting through the bullshit hifiguy Apr 2013 #108

Love that Uncle Tsarni! Taverner Apr 2013 #64

All terrorists are losers, So I agree with the uncle. Rex Apr 2013 #70

Take a look at the thread with 30 pictures of the younger brother Fumesucker Apr 2013 #74

I tried to look at that link in that thread Rex Apr 2013 #78

I think the uncle meant malcontents. His English was pretty basic and broken. Cleita Apr 2013 #83

Define loser! Milliesmom Apr 2013 #84

What if they both maxed-out all their credit-card accounts (if any) Amonester Apr 2013 #90

I think you are combining characteristics of both of them. smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #115

Hi, Yes I stated that I was. Milliesmom Apr 2013 #118

Sorry, no problem. smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #119

so young MFM008 Apr 2013 #85

The older one was 26. snagglepuss Apr 2013 #104

It was brilliant GaYellowDawg Apr 2013 #107