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In reply to the discussion: Seriously, did so many people truly believe that president Obama could change the course.... [View all]hifiguy
(33,688 posts)116. That's what I expected too.
Instead he just closed the book on the fraud and criminality of the banksters and the Little Chimp's maladministration ASAP. Unless wrongs are confronted, acknowledged and dealt with they will be repeated ad infinitum. Obama didn't even try and that is why I am so disgusted with him.
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Seriously, did so many people truly believe that president Obama could change the course.... [View all]
WCGreen
Dec 2011
OP
I'm tired of posts like the OP. How is signing the indefinite detention bill a problem for him?
roguevalley
Dec 2011
#158
yes, obama doesnt have the b pulpit. OWS has been the only thing louder than talk radio last 20 yrs
certainot
Dec 2011
#148
yep..finding ways to break through the wall of noise is paramount right now.
BlancheSplanchnik
Dec 2011
#213
thanks for reminding me- he's a hero for exposing all that although the swiftboating of anita hill
certainot
Dec 2011
#215
President Obama Accomplished A Lot In The Three Years He's Been At The Helm......
global1
Dec 2011
#3
From day#1, what calls itself "the Left" screamed at him to fight AND pulled the rug out
patrice
Dec 2011
#4
This assumes that YOUR definition of "stand up" is THE valid one, even though it
patrice
Dec 2011
#15
No, I seriously believed he would try. That's all. Try, stand up, that's all. (nt)
enough
Dec 2011
#7
Sad to see you buying into this straw-man argument. It was never the speed, it was the direction.
Maven
Dec 2011
#11
There it is. Many will keep pushing the didn't do enough theme just to avoid this
TheKentuckian
Dec 2011
#16
You guess wrong and quite poorly based on your own preconceptions. I am no Clintonite
TheKentuckian
Dec 2011
#240
"It was never the speed, it was the direction." Well said. And WTF? Jeff Immelt? nm
rhett o rick
Dec 2011
#163
Fixing this country and changing DC will take at least 3 Presidents, all on the same page.
FarLeftFist
Dec 2011
#14
Funny how so many harp on how profound the corruption is, but this guy, for some reason, is
patrice
Dec 2011
#17
I think it is wrong to assume there's 1 & only 1 definition of "try" and that definition is 100%
patrice
Dec 2011
#52
Wow, you're almost as good as the Rape-Publicans at saying that nothing means anything...
ClassWarrior
Dec 2011
#58
Your saying that that way, doesn't make anything I said less true. Tell me there's ONE and only one
patrice
Dec 2011
#59
Of course it is. For example, "complex" and "convoluted" may sound similar...
ClassWarrior
Dec 2011
#73
So, reality isn't convoluted? All relationships, especially financial ones, are direct and simple?
patrice
Dec 2011
#78
No that's YOUR theory. I have said elsewhere, the situation is much more complex and convoluted
patrice
Dec 2011
#120
Hpothetical: President gets on tv & makes references to "profound corruption"; what happens next?
patrice
Dec 2011
#125
It's going to take a hell of a lot more than that if the first three are as timid...
ClassWarrior
Dec 2011
#51
Yeah, and no one talks about the difference between experiencing that campaign & being surprised
patrice
Dec 2011
#189
Being surprised, especially as a Senator, is evidence of wrongheaded thinking.
TheKentuckian
Dec 2011
#226
But Fox News promised us he would be the most liberal president in history!
JohnnyRingo
Dec 2011
#21
Faux didn't have to. Obama did plenty to encourage that impression on his own.
ClassWarrior
Dec 2011
#45
I think you misinterpreted his/her post. They were posting what Republicans would say about it
stevenleser
Dec 2011
#165
It's a lot harder than you think to completely purge an administration from the prior one....
WCGreen
Dec 2011
#29
Toxic Financial Sector. You have to get the best possible inside information about their problems &
patrice
Dec 2011
#61
Who would be better? Obviously, those who did not help the crash. Obvious to some.
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2011
#131
I want to see the wreckage re-built/recycled into profit-sharing & various forms of co - operatives.
patrice
Dec 2011
#145
I want to see banksters on their way to Texas prisons, without air-conditioning.
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2011
#175
"I never believed that president Obama was the Messiah who would take us to the Promised Land"
Bonobo
Dec 2011
#31
GREAT post. Says everything I've felt over the last few years, as I've watched this president
Demit
Dec 2011
#108
Why not "do what's right and . . ?" because his/our enemies CAN punish him by HURTING people.
patrice
Dec 2011
#192
The legislative process is quite a bit more transparent than it was, but still not enough.
patrice
Dec 2011
#55
Like it or not, his job was not to tip the train-wreck teetering on the edge of the cliff
patrice
Dec 2011
#54
Tell me exactly how he could have gotten precisely the PRIVATE BUSINESS information he needed
patrice
Dec 2011
#64
Yeah, once again we're told he's ALL POWERFUL... or he's totally powerless...
ClassWarrior
Dec 2011
#70
Wow. You really do think he's a king. Wonder how the U.S.A. will feel when he orders PRIVATE
patrice
Dec 2011
#80
So you're going to discount the effects of MSM propaganda & commercialism? All Americans have
patrice
Dec 2011
#122
Victimhood again. What about autonomy? Those who do not WANT to be divided will NOT
patrice
Dec 2011
#156
You are assuming that YOU know with 100% validity what to hold him accountable for.
patrice
Dec 2011
#149
So, let it all go over into the abyss and THAT way we'll know for sure what of our financial
patrice
Dec 2011
#66
to be perfectly honest,,,,he is doing pretty much what I expected..I knew he was a centrist
Douglas Carpenter
Dec 2011
#65
You need to get a grip on the situation. First of all, the President got an anti-gay guy
akbacchus_BC
Dec 2011
#74
Guess what, to me, this isn't even that much about him. To me, it's about the best chances
patrice
Dec 2011
#76
Bet you know that more people you insure, the cost will be less ... Why the US does not have single
akbacchus_BC
Dec 2011
#79
NOT true. I'm amazed you think he couldn't have done the war better. Assuming it was a given for him
patrice
Dec 2011
#152
It's only rationalizing when the other guy does it. (google Attribution Error in Social Psychology).
patrice
Dec 2011
#195
I mostly agree, although I believe Obama needs to start stepping up and KICKING ASS a little more...
AverageJoe90
Dec 2011
#88
Nobody hear stated changing the country would be as easy as flipping a switch
fascisthunter
Dec 2011
#101
i've seen it implied often. it was primary framing for the RW media as soon as obama got in
certainot
Dec 2011
#151
1+++++++++++++ but I don't know whether to be happy or sad that they're hanging with us.
patrice
Dec 2011
#196
feel free to come out and accuse me of such a thing.... instead of implying it
fascisthunter
Dec 2011
#198
He not only hasn't changed course, he has gone full speed ahead on some of the worst Bush Era abuses
MNBrewer
Dec 2011
#111
I didn't expect an overnight cure-all to 20-30 years of bad policies and bad decisions-
Proud Liberal Dem
Dec 2011
#112
Yeah, he lacked the fortitude and will to just move or start trial proceedings
TheKentuckian
Dec 2011
#241
Re his getting ripped by Repukes: I think they're getting even for what a miserable fucking piece of
patrice
Dec 2011
#203
No Republicans, racists or otherwise, forced him to choose Timothy Geithner. That just 1 example.
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2011
#118
You do understand the nature of our particular corruption, don't you? Republicans aren't
patrice
Dec 2011
#121
Unless you're living completely off of "the grid" & surviving entirely on your own abilities,
patrice
Dec 2011
#144
I voted for him thinking he would try to stand up to that corruption, not use it as an excuse. n/t
totodeinhere
Dec 2011
#140
a lot of new voters fell into the trap of high expectations set by the right media, espec RW radio
certainot
Dec 2011
#154
AND they CAN do a LOT more than just shoot a President, like start more wars and such.
patrice
Dec 2011
#157
I think he is what he does, and a lot of that is substantially the same as Bush
leveymg
Dec 2011
#162
Besides- he cant fire any of the conservatives in his cabinet until we give him 300 Liberal Senators
Dr Fate
Dec 2011
#168
It's not just the numbers the mid-terms didn't produce. It's also the message that sent!
patrice
Dec 2011
#205
If voting for him in 2008 could not change the course, why should we vote for him again?
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2011
#176
Obama is not a LEADER. This country needs a strong ethical compass OPPOSING those who
Beam Me Up
Dec 2011
#179
Ah, the difference no "unrec" can make. It will change DU forever---until they bring it back.
McCamy Taylor
Dec 2011
#181
Obama agrees to two month extension of unemployment and payroll tax cuts for 60 day review of oil
julian09
Dec 2011
#201
No, but most Americans who voted for him thought he would at least put up a fight
MadHound
Dec 2011
#219
I did not expect him to fix it in a short time and I recognize that the rethugs are doing everything
jwirr
Dec 2011
#221
Worse is his position is generally in the neighborhood of where the TeaPubliKlans
TheKentuckian
Dec 2011
#227
Exactly, if you wanted "Change" you should have voted for a candidate running on that premise.
NorthCarolina
Dec 2011
#233