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haele

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58. "Shelter in Place" is an alert used in CA for rural brush fires for decades now...

Reply to NoodleyAppendage (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:08 PM

Apr 2013

The "Shelter in Place" notification is given when your only way to get out and about is potentially more dangerous than staying in place or "sheltering" and hoping the authorities (fire department, police, National Guard) can get you out or secure the area your home/shelter is at before the danger can get to you.

We also had a "Shelter in Place" alert when that ex-cop Dorner was suspected of being in the area; pretty much common sense.

But there's nothing keeping you from going out and doing stuff when that alert is made. It's not Martial Law where you can either be jailed or shot on sight for being out.

At most, you'll get stopped and questioned if the authorities see you.

Haele

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How is "Shelter in Place" any different than "Martial Law?" [View all] NoodleyAppendage Apr 2013 OP

Is anyone being arrested for failing to shelter in place? n/t winter is coming Apr 2013 #1

I suspect that arrest would be likely...if not outright risk of being shot. NoodleyAppendage Apr 2013 #6

I think the risk of being caught in a crossfire or explosion is more likely than arrest. winter is coming Apr 2013 #10

Yes, it's a damn good thing that Boston is handling this much, much better than the LAPD, isn't it? EOTE Apr 2013 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author 11 Bravo Apr 2013 #46

No, you're not the only one MadHound Apr 2013 #2

You don't say.... Bobbie Jo Apr 2013 #33

No, it is NOT the same. Martial law = MILITARY rule Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #3

Um, yeah, I'm not sure why anyone would not see the difference. randome Apr 2013 #7

Arrested 4Q2u2 Apr 2013 #4

Do you live in Boston? Marrah_G Apr 2013 #5

+1 nt Javaman Apr 2013 #8

Not complaining, so much as trying to figure out when this "shelter in place" became a thing... NoodleyAppendage Apr 2013 #9

When an unstable kid starts running around with bombs and guns Marrah_G Apr 2013 #15

It's a strongly worded suggestion Aerows Apr 2013 #17

I've noticed that. Arkana Apr 2013 #38

Bullshit, many are complaining about lost wages, etc. Read some message boards. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #53

It's a disaster preparedness term. It means essentially that you're safer staying put geek tragedy Apr 2013 #11

Thanks. This is what I was wanting to know. But, does it have legal force? NoodleyAppendage Apr 2013 #19

No idea. Cops will probably yell at you if you walk around. nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #20

Stay off the streets, there's violent guys out versus outright military rule??? NightWatcher Apr 2013 #12

Feel free to go on a walkabout sharp_stick Apr 2013 #13

One is meant to control you, the other is meant to keep you safe Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #14

Redcoats occupying Boston was martial law Generic Other Apr 2013 #16

Not even remotely the same thing. n/t MadrasT Apr 2013 #18

Shelter in place is a safety thing.. SoCalDem Apr 2013 #21

Why is it important to even bring this up when people's lives are in danger. I am really tired of kelliekat44 Apr 2013 #22

Less a slam than just trying to figure out if it has any "force of law" NoodleyAppendage Apr 2013 #24

No, you could not nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #43

Don't trust the people who are risking their lives for you! randome Apr 2013 #25

That's about it treestar Apr 2013 #48

They better not use the wrong type of tear gas . . . nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #52

Poor authority. When will it catch a break? cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #56

Shelter in Place reminds me more of weather state of emergencies than martial law justiceischeap Apr 2013 #23

Unrec. How is this different from Alex Jones complaining that the police closed the sidewalk FSogol Apr 2013 #26

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #27

I'd say the risk is imminent and credible. That said, shelter in place is a public safety move. pinto Apr 2013 #31

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #49

Good and useful post. Thanks. /nt Bragi Apr 2013 #55

Sigh.... Floyd_Gondolli Apr 2013 #28

DU needs a "Like" function... Jeff In Milwaukee Apr 2013 #34

Shelter in Place ipfilter Apr 2013 #30

Because you are not bound by any law to stay inside? Rex Apr 2013 #32

"Shelter in place" is a warning used here every time there's refinery fire. Gormy Cuss Apr 2013 #35

Um, all it means is "please stay in your houses". Arkana Apr 2013 #36

It's like a tornado siren or an mandatory hurricane evacuation jpak Apr 2013 #37

They asked for our help. We are giving it by staying inside. WilliamPitt Apr 2013 #39

Talking points straight from Alex Jones... SidDithers Apr 2013 #40

Is anybody getting shot? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #41

Grow the fuck up. Zoeisright Apr 2013 #42

I actually lived under martial law for a period Skidmore Apr 2013 #44

Shelter in Peace = "Stay Inside, We're too Busy Protecting You to Babysit You" Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #45

Yes, that is the difference. And a big one. Hekate Apr 2013 #50

Here's another thread malaise Apr 2013 #47

yes. you are the only one. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2013 #51

BECAUSE ITS DIFFERENT AND YOU ARE A GRGRGGGGG!!11 cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #54

No 2nd amendment militias yet in sight Bragi Apr 2013 #57

"Shelter in Place" is an alert used in CA for rural brush fires for decades now... haele Apr 2013 #58