I hate to rain on people's parade but....

[patrice]

86. What price are you willing to pay for what you think needs to be done? What price should others pay?

What will you do, how far would you go and what will be the benefits and liabilities of your effect upon what you want to change? Will the benefits exceed the liabilities in your brave new world?

I don't think the ends justifies the means. I prefer options. You don't, but you don't have a right to limit my options for me. That makes YOU the oppressor. Tell me what you/we should give up, how and when, in order to change whatever it is that you feel oppresses you. What about everyone else who does not agree with you, people who don't think we live in a police state, how will your actions, whatever they are, affect them? Do you have a right to affect them in a way that they do not choose to be affected for something that they don't even agree with you about in the first place? Who died and made you God?

Some people are absolutists of a type that is so blinded and hence limited by their reactions to authority that they make slaves out of themselves in self-reinforcing circles, endlessly exchanging one set of problems for another, and oppressing others in the process. It's like color-blindness or being tone deaf. Are you in denial about that? That's a question I ask myself all of the time. Can you? The freedoms some people have mean 0 compared to perceived oppressions. Honestly, WHY is that?

Show me how whatever you are thinking "needs" to be done isn't a fucking PIPE dream. Are you sure that you aren't oppressed by your own learned helplessness? Dependence making you hate that which fulfills your needs, for fear of losing what fulfills your needs?

When we receive assets that we don't directly create, the systems that produce that stuff generate some negative properties out of the sheer complexity of what those systems are dealing with. Those same systems also do EQUAL or even more good, but Entropy is practically inevitable. We should deal with those liabilities; that will reduce the emergent generalized oppression that results from those negative systemic properties. I am in the process of doing that for myself and others. NO ONE is impeding me. In fact, everyone is being helpful. The only restraints I experience are the ones that I have chosen. This is not a police state.

I suppose I haven't changed your mind. You can think whatever you WANT think no matter how wrong it is, but false thinking becomes an UNEARNED privilege to the extent that it FAILS to honestly challenge its own validity and operates only on assumptions about itself, so make no error about OTHERS in your quest to end this "police state".

If we did live in a police state there would be two main sets of solutions:

1. You could Get rid of a bunch of OTHERS and homogenize everyone, so that the state no longer needs to be a police state in order to deal with all of the different kinds of regressive behaviors. - OR -
2. Each individual person decides what to do to change the "police state" in whatever way they can, into whatever s/he thinks it should be, that is, decide what changes in your life you'll make to pay for what you think needs to happen - AND - DO IT and accept the consequences of your doing, accept the consequences of what YOU decide, instead of waiting for others to do it for/with you and bitching about them and insulting their integrity if they don't agree. If YOU can't do that, if a person can't do what s/he thinks needs to be done to free themselves, then they have enslaved themselves to whatever it is that s/he won't give up to end the oppression that s/he perceives s/he experiences.

If that's too complicated for you, here it is in the short form; some people seriously need to grow the f- up!