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KharmaTrain

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49. Yep...Political Refugees...
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 08:17 AM
Apr 2013

If any teabagger yelps (and, yes, I've already caught this on facebook) about lax borders, kindly remind them that the Tsarnaevs were admitted to the U.S. in 2002 as POLITICAL refugees...not unlike Cubans...and then became naturalized American citizens in 2007. Now what does Barack Obama have to do with any of this...especially since he wasn't even in the federal government in 2002. Just watch the head spin...

As usual, our myopic media only views the world in "how it affects the U.S."...the media "American Exceptionalism" that pays little heed to conflicts in the rest of the world unless an American is involved. While Tsarnaev is of Chechen origin, and I wouldn't be surprised if we learn that he and his brother had sympathies for their native land, I'll wait to see if that's offered up for a defense.

Another irony of this whole situation was those with guns...the MIT security guard in specific...ended up as an unfortunate victim while the guy who had his Mercedes SUV hijacked and was held hostage...he was unarmed and was let go unharmed. Wanna bet if he had been packing and dared to pull the gun to "protect" himself we'd have one more funeral to deal with.

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According to AP, Suspect #2 Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev. Recovered Repug Apr 2013 #1
So much for the Teabaggers frothing at the mouth for Middle Easterners. nt Lex Apr 2013 #2
It's not two guys from rural Alabama ChangeUp106 Apr 2013 #3
Will probably at least confuse them for awhile. Lex Apr 2013 #4
!!! Heidi Apr 2013 #6
Two fucking amateurs malaise Apr 2013 #7
how stupid marions ghost Apr 2013 #22
Well given their ages one or both may have been rejected/expelled malaise Apr 2013 #24
that's a good theory marions ghost Apr 2013 #34
Most Chechnyans are Muslim... a number have also worked with Al Quaeda over the years... JCMach1 Apr 2013 #9
Central Asia is very nearly the middle east. Recursion Apr 2013 #12
IMO they're different, like Mexico is different from the USA, which is different from Canada nt CJCRANE Apr 2013 #44
Not Middle Easterners but they don't care where Muslims are from cali Apr 2013 #15
The predominant religion in Chechnya is Islam. aristocles Apr 2013 #5
Exactly... JCMach1 Apr 2013 #11
This will reshape the immigration debate, possibly gun debate as well. nt MOTRDemocrat Apr 2013 #8
Something is seriously wrong when anyone can buy all these weapons n/t malaise Apr 2013 #10
ditto marions ghost Apr 2013 #23
Indeed. Mother Jones: "Tea Party Smells Blood In Immigration Fight" pampango Apr 2013 #42
Ufffda! Now we'll have to hear Putin weigh in alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #13
Yep these are Russians malaise Apr 2013 #16
Chechnyans are not ethnically Russian aristocles Apr 2013 #18
and Europeans are not ethnically African malaise Apr 2013 #20
They're Chechen Muslims alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #19
What passport do they have? n/t malaise Apr 2013 #21
Good point alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #28
That's my only point malaise Apr 2013 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author tarheelsunc Apr 2013 #40
Haven't heard that. Fawke Em Apr 2013 #33
They would not consider themselves Russians. Brickbat Apr 2013 #27
what? No. cali Apr 2013 #30
They have Muslim names alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #31
Official- they are from Kyrgyzstan malaise Apr 2013 #36
There are ethnic Russians in other nearby countries CJCRANE Apr 2013 #45
What about the Russian expert, Sarah Palin? geomon666 Apr 2013 #57
That means plenty of background checks were done on them treestar Apr 2013 #14
I'm betting on no background checks malaise Apr 2013 #17
ditto again marions ghost Apr 2013 #25
LOL malaise Apr 2013 #26
All non US persons entering the US through Customs aristocles Apr 2013 #32
The dead one's photo malaise Apr 2013 #35
Older dead one said he didn't understand Americans. Are they not required to attend classes Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #37
Understanding a people and culture malaise Apr 2013 #38
It's a good start, IMO. Learning that we're a melting pot... Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #39
I don't think you understand the mentality of some of the people who want citizenship malaise Apr 2013 #41
Oh, I get it. It's all about money. It's always about money. Still, it'd help. Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #46
That's because you're actually interested in learning malaise Apr 2013 #47
I disagree. You can't help but form a little understanding when forced to sit and listen Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #50
I've been an educator for decades and believe me malaise Apr 2013 #52
I assume that Chechen is an ethnicity like Irish or Cuban for example... CJCRANE Apr 2013 #43
True but we didn't really know their heritage until the uncle spoke malaise Apr 2013 #48
It's a mixed up world...nationality, ethnicity, heritage, race, culture, language... CJCRANE Apr 2013 #58
Yep...Political Refugees... KharmaTrain Apr 2013 #49
And did you notice that the goons with their AR15s stayed indoors malaise Apr 2013 #51
Thank Goodness... KharmaTrain Apr 2013 #53
Well I did worry about the precedent of locking down towns and cities malaise Apr 2013 #54
Civil Defense Vs. Civil Liberties... KharmaTrain Apr 2013 #55
WillPitt disagreed with me malaise Apr 2013 #56
I Think It's A "You Had To Have Been There"... KharmaTrain Apr 2013 #59
Well to the extent that there were IEDs found elsewhere they may have done the right thing malaise Apr 2013 #60
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