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48. That their opinion would be "most valid" because they got to make an adult choice

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 07:25 PM

Feb 2012

is pretty disturbing. Maybe this is one of those "if you don't have a uterus you don't get to have an opinion" types of topics, except it's penis in this case, not uterus.

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"The goal is to circumcise 20 million African men by 2015..." [View all] slackmaster Feb 2012 OP

lol! And THAT for the teeny tiny turtleneck worshippers! aquart Feb 2012 #1

ritual mutilation in the name of $$ - changing sex habits would be more effective nt msongs Feb 2012 #2

And... slackmaster Feb 2012 #3

Wow, that's the argument that's made for ending women's sexual/body rights. We just need to change Lionessa Feb 2012 #5

thanks lionessa pitohui Feb 2012 #15

actually its only a specific strategy to stop the spread of specfic disease and has nothing to do msongs Feb 2012 #23

And far more difficult, too. MineralMan Feb 2012 #8

Geez, you love to generalize. Lionessa Feb 2012 #13

I got it done at 18 customerserviceguy Feb 2012 #14

Lionessa, if you knew me, that would be one. MNBrewer Feb 2012 #41

Ah, but I don't and I did already concede to having read about some that feel as you, Lionessa Feb 2012 #46

That their opinion would be "most valid" because they got to make an adult choice MNBrewer Feb 2012 #48

No, it's just quite simply that they are the only ones that have experiential comparison Lionessa Feb 2012 #51

All the more reason to do the hysterectomies in infancy MNBrewer Feb 2012 #52

Wow, you're really try hard to put words in other folks' mouths. Good luck with that. Lionessa Feb 2012 #55

I'm just curious SaintPete Feb 2012 #44

Would tats also be considered mutilation? Hey, what about so much of the vanity dentistry? Lionessa Feb 2012 #47

All because the Pope doesn't like condoms. Quantess Feb 2012 #4

I've never met the Pope, but none of the other men I've met like them either. Lionessa Feb 2012 #6

I never had any problem with condoms. MineralMan Feb 2012 #7

You are rare. Lionessa Feb 2012 #9

Am I? Condom sales would tend to contradict that, I think. MineralMan Feb 2012 #11

Well I've had a pretty wide sampling in my life, mostly when Lionessa Feb 2012 #12

Need overcomes preference. MineralMan Feb 2012 #17

Since you're agreeing, why do you sound so disagreeable in the presentation? Lionessa Feb 2012 #18

Maybe you're reading the words with the wrong MineralMan Feb 2012 #22

Lots Of Men Pressure Women Into Unprotected Sex Under The Guise Of It Feel Better DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2012 #31

I have no doubt that there are men who do that. MineralMan Feb 2012 #63

You Should Read About Men On The Down Low Or DL As It Is Often Called DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2012 #70

!!! Bucky Feb 2012 #49

Wow, you know the Pope? Ikonoklast Feb 2012 #10

Not 'all because'; Catholicism isn't the only sect or religion in Africa muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #19

Well, as long as they don't bomb the moon, it's cool. downwardly_mobile Feb 2012 #16

Indoor plumbing, soap and clean water would do the same. Cleita Feb 2012 #20

Well no they wouldn't Spider Jerusalem Feb 2012 #25

I realize there is that, however, I still think hygiene and condoms would Cleita Feb 2012 #34

Well... Spider Jerusalem Feb 2012 #39

Yes, but hygine is still an issue, Europe doesn't have such rates of hetrosexual HIV transmission. joshcryer Feb 2012 #37

You can't actually make that correlation, I'm afraid Spider Jerusalem Feb 2012 #40

The 10% immunity is directly reflected in the 40% hetro transmission rate in EU. Meanwhile... joshcryer Feb 2012 #45

That doesn't actually disprove anything I've said Spider Jerusalem Feb 2012 #54

And drug use (needle sharing) has what to do with circumcision, how? joshcryer Feb 2012 #56

Not necessarily Spider Jerusalem Feb 2012 #57

I've worked with some of the people doing the research and implimenting this program. Iterate Feb 2012 #58

Thanks for the post. Perhaps my desire to see African living standard improve... joshcryer Feb 2012 #59

If there was any one thing, I was most surprised to learn how interrealated it all is. Iterate Feb 2012 #60

circumcision prevents aids and a double mastectomy ldf Feb 2012 #21

Are You Really Comparing Circumicision To A Radical Mastetomy On Both Breasts? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2012 #26

I agree. Two ounces of prevention MNBrewer Feb 2012 #42

The Other Gentleman Didn't Answer DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2012 #43

I don't know MNBrewer Feb 2012 #50

Maybe because it's medically indicated DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2012 #61

How is it medically indicated sosilly Feb 2012 #67

There's A Reasonable Chance He Might Grow Up And Grown Ups Are Known To Have Sex. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2012 #68

If anyone wants to take a moment to explain to me why this is true and how it works... Capitalocracy Feb 2012 #24

The foreskin tears in intercourse causing bleeding. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2012 #27

I Thought That The Foreskin Traps The HiV Virus DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2012 #30

A combination of factors: Spider Jerusalem Feb 2012 #32

The Forsekin In An Uncircumcised Penis Gives The HIV Virus A Warm Place To Harbor DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2012 #28

That's just the tip of it Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #29

First we need to get our heads around the problem Major Nikon Feb 2012 #33

There might even be an uprising...or an explosion! jillan Feb 2012 #35

Condoms work better and also prevent pregnancy. JVS Feb 2012 #36

Have You Ever Researched Condom Compliance In Africa Or Even Certain Segments Of America? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2012 #38

If foreskins were as maladaptive as the forced circumcision advocates would have us believe MNBrewer Feb 2012 #53

Like the appendix? frustrated_lefty Feb 2012 #62

The invention of clothing has made the foreskin superfluous slackmaster Feb 2012 #64

Maybe Man Needed His Foreskin DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2012 #69

I think the loincloth is overdue for a comeback slackmaster Feb 2012 #71

I Saw Somebody Post A Sentiment Similar To What I Originallly Posted And Thought It Was Hilarious DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2012 #72

Notice the article says men, and not boys. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #65

Next thing you know they'll be opening Olive Gardens all over Africa. TheManInTheMac Feb 2012 #66