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sarisataka

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24. Allow me to take the role of devil's advocate
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 01:15 PM
Apr 2013
In common parlance, a devil's advocate is someone who, given a certain argument, takes a position he or she does not necessarily agree with, for the sake of debate. In taking this position, the individual taking on the devil's advocate role seeks to engage others in an argumentative discussion process. The purpose of such process is typically to test the quality of the original argument and identify weaknesses in its structure, and to use such information to either improve or abandon the original, opposing position. It can also refer to someone who takes a stance that is seen as unpopular or unconventional, but is actually another way of arguing a much more conventional stance.


In this case, an untrained 19 year old who had already been wounded required a major city to essentially shut down. Hundreds, if not thousands, of law enforcement personnel conducted a 20 hour manhunt to apprehend him.
Though law enforcement did succeed, it must be taken into account this suspect had not made prior preparations for countering a large manhunt, had no sympathy or support for the local population and was not actively trying to counterattack the police.

Imagine if you will a group of ten men, perhaps three with formal training who have spent months preparing supplies, caches and safe houses. In addition they have a political agenda that is sympathetic with 5% of the population. While this population will not aid them in direct action they will give aid and succor. The men can reasonably expect food, short term shelter, medical assistance and passive obstruction of police operations.


Now the end result is the same. These ten men would end up dead or apprehended eventually. What would the cost be in time, dollars, manpower and public support. Too heavy of a hand could increase the percentage of population that supported their cause.

To win, an insurrection does not need total victory...

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Damn right. I wanted to make this point myself. Another NRA lie is shot down. graham4anything Apr 2013 #1
And most those right wing nut jobs under Bush would have glowing Apr 2013 #2
I ask that question too sorefeet Apr 2013 #6
It seemed to imply that "shut down traffic" meant sitting in cars blocking highways... glowing Apr 2013 #11
Government took over a long time ago quaker bill Apr 2013 #3
OK. Thank you so very much. And you can keep your fantasy about other peoples fantasies too. geckosfeet Apr 2013 #4
Here's what one person told me in reply to that a while back: OneGrassRoot Apr 2013 #5
The story I hear more is the looters after fiat currency (or whatever) collapses (nt) Recursion Apr 2013 #8
Also, many of them nuts are absolutely convinced that, should they ever revolt taking arms... Amonester Apr 2013 #9
Very good observation.. Vietnameravet Apr 2013 #10
Isn't that the about the same thing as terrorists? BanzaiBonnie Apr 2013 #18
Yes! OneGrassRoot Apr 2013 #20
Oh look, it's this crap again. dairydog91 Apr 2013 #7
+1 Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #19
you mean the facebook meme going around about russia? madrchsod Apr 2013 #12
That's an NRA meme meant to treat the sale of weapons everywhere like football boots malaise Apr 2013 #16
Against one of two guys the asymmetry was obvious HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #13
+1 badtoworse Apr 2013 #17
Compound words are part of the English language... pipoman Apr 2013 #14
I sometimes post when I'm drunk. harmonicon Apr 2013 #15
I am convinced I do. cliffordu Apr 2013 #21
Cats use our computers hifiguy Apr 2013 #26
Guns would not have changed anything monday Marrah_G Apr 2013 #22
I think .... Locrian Apr 2013 #23
Allow me to take the role of devil's advocate sarisataka Apr 2013 #24
On the other hand... OneMoreDemocrat Apr 2013 #25
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