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32. Talk about what? That he was a whistle-blower reporting crimes and that his superiors

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 09:28 PM

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failed to live up to their oaths and stop those crimes? He abided by his oath of office. But I have no illusions about his fate in today's America. The war criminals make the rounds of TV shows selling their books filled with lies, and the good guys go to jail. Someday the words in oaths of office and the laws we claim to be so proud of, will actually mean something. Meantime, he is a hero, but will have to wait until this country finds its footing again and begins to abide by the law. It took decades in other countries, so Manning will have a long wait, but at least his conscience is clear. He expected what is happening to happen and did the right thing anyhow.

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Any Military Attorneys here? Or, does anybody know if [View all] gateley Feb 2012 OP

Army general orders court-martial of US soldier Pfc. Bradley Manning in WikiLeaks case Electric Monk Feb 2012 #1

He's got defense counsel; we shall see. elleng Feb 2012 #2

That didn't stop them from essentially TORTURING him, so I don't know if they gateley Feb 2012 #3

Thanks -- but that's what prompted my question. I'm curious if there's anything remotely gateley Feb 2012 #4

Courts martial vary, as do all courts malthaussen Feb 2012 #5

Yeah, he's been tried and found guilty already. They say he has gateley Feb 2012 #12

Not Guilty is never rendered in a U.S. Court. chained Feb 2012 #7

'Not guilty' is rendered in U.S. courts. msanthrope Feb 2012 #8

Actually, yes there is jmowreader Feb 2012 #20

Manning is screwed... JSnuffy Feb 2012 #6

Well okay, then. I guess I need look no further since you've already sentenced him. nt gateley Feb 2012 #13

Not me... JSnuffy Feb 2012 #14

I know, but I don't think they should have treated him as they did. He has to pay the piper -- gateley Feb 2012 #17

Actually he abided by his oath. Too bad his superiors chose not to abide by theirs and act sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #30

Says you... as someone who never had to live up to them... JSnuffy Feb 2012 #31

I doubt I would have had his courage. Most of us do not. Not that I said I would. I said HE did. sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #33

My point... JSnuffy Feb 2012 #35

Seems pretty straighforward so long as it's taken seriously. sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #37

Yeah I heard that he raped the horses and road off on the women MattBaggins Feb 2012 #34

I had not heard that... JSnuffy Feb 2012 #36

Court Martial: "Lead the guilty man in for a fair trial and sentencing." Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2012 #9

Too bad that's what Manning signed up for. msanthrope Feb 2012 #11

Not a chance in hell. And he has an excellent lawyer. msanthrope Feb 2012 #10

Gender identity? Well I hope he does plea. gateley Feb 2012 #15

If you would take a moment to educate yourself... JSnuffy Feb 2012 #16

Thank you. nt gateley Feb 2012 #18

Quantico is single-occupant cell, only. msanthrope Feb 2012 #19

I'm sure he was treated very well. No pressure. No stress. And he probably gateley Feb 2012 #23

Well, his supporters can't have it both ways-- msanthrope Feb 2012 #25

But the suicide watch sounded more like harrassment. I just don't think they treated him fairly, gateley Feb 2012 #26

Again, you can't have it both ways....I read Manning's filings, and he seemed to be making very msanthrope Feb 2012 #27

Talk about what? That he was a whistle-blower reporting crimes and that his superiors sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #32

It's a kangaroo court jeanpalmer Feb 2012 #21

His attorney is throwing out "defenses" that have no chance of supporting acquittal. Robb Feb 2012 #22

Thanks, Robb. nt gateley Feb 2012 #24

Not only is it a kangaroo court, but the commander in chief already declared him guilty before trial Cali_Democrat Feb 2012 #28

He's never tried to deny that he committed serious offences, so I suspect he's pretty much screwn. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2012 #29