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Sun Apr 21, 2013, 07:35 AM Apr 2013

Dylan Klebold and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev [View all]

I'll be honest. Even if the bombing had never happened, Tamerlan Tsarnaev doesn't seem like the kind of guy I would had liked. His appearance alone puts me off. He looks like someone who wears too much cologne if you know what I mean. Throw in the domestic abuse charge and I really get the picture of a swaggering... well, douchebag. Dzhokhar on the other hand seems like someone I might have regarded as a sweet kid. He looks almost angelic in the photos I've seen, with those big brown eyes, moppish hair, and baby face (I realize some photos circulating are from high school). The description of his laid-back personality also appeals to me. Even knowing what he did, I can't help feeling a twinge of pity for him. However, in the end both brothers are adults who are equally responsible for their evil actions. It may be true that Tamerlan was the leader, the mastermind, the dominant personality. But Dzhokhar wasn't being forced at gunpoint.

Comparisons have been made to the Colombine killers Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris. It seems to be commonly accepted now that Harris was the psychopath who engineered the whole massacre and Klebold was just some confused kid who went along for the ride. Yet Dylan killed multiple victims by himself. He went along with a plan to massacre innocent people, most of them kids too. I've always thought it unfair that Eric Harris' parents get to have their some remembered as a pure psychopath while Dylan Klebold's parents probably receive a bit more sympathy.

It doesn't matter how sweet and likable a person you are; when you do monstrous things, you've made yourself into a monster. It doesn't matter that it wasn't your idea or that a stronger personality talked you into it. People have free will and are supposed to resist others who would lead them toward evil. Dzhokar has no moral high ground above Tamerlan. His actions were equally evil. And if we feel any pity toward Dzhokar, then I don't think Tamerlan is less deserving of that if we analyze things rationally. One could argue that Dzhokar was the stronger one in a sense. He was better assimilated, with lots of American friends, unlike his brother. He was a naturalized citizen. He might have been able to pull his brother back from the brink of madness instead joining him there. No matter how much more likable Dzhokar seems than Tamerlan, I reject the idea that he was just a pawn in all this. He made his own choices.

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I am unaware of the facial characteristics of someone who wears too much cologne. dems_rightnow Apr 2013 #1
probably has more to do with the gold chains and the track suit he was pictured wearing... Cooley Hurd Apr 2013 #4
ROFL alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #6
You need to misread it. Because that is NOT what the OP'er said. KittyWampus Apr 2013 #14
Care to explain what's so jaw-dropping about that? (nt) Nine Apr 2013 #21
Nitpicking caseymoz Apr 2013 #12
OP'er didn't correlate FACIAL characteristics with wearing too much cologne. You misread. KittyWampus Apr 2013 #13
Okay okay... jberryhill Apr 2013 #20
Lets give him a fair trial in open court anyway, GoneFishin Apr 2013 #2
I don't remember saying he shouldn't get a trial. (nt) Nine Apr 2013 #5
I haven't read anything that convinces me these men were not cold blooded killers. MichiganVote Apr 2013 #3
Agreed...this "his brother influenced him" nonsense is taking on a life of its own alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #7
Considering he was the captain of his wrestling team & people are STILL willing to testify on his KittyWampus Apr 2013 #15
I've read much of the testimony alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #17
Ditto for Klebold. Anyone who could watch the video's MichiganVote Apr 2013 #22
Not to down play the part Shankapotomus Apr 2013 #8
A reasonable point to make marions ghost Apr 2013 #9
I can accept it as a reason. bluedigger Apr 2013 #10
Remember that tweet, "LOL those people are cooked", something like that? Benton D Struckcheon Apr 2013 #11
Look, if the Dzhokhar who was captain of his wrestling team is still able to be salvaged MAYBE KittyWampus Apr 2013 #16
Uh, no. One was on an Islamic Jihad. The other was not. Zax2me Apr 2013 #18
Feelings shouldn't matter when it comes to punishment. caseymoz Apr 2013 #19
Yup. MichiganVote Apr 2013 #23
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