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Sun Apr 21, 2013, 11:39 AM Apr 2013

why the 'spread sheet scandal' should kill obama's social security cut [View all]

http://www.nationofchange.org/why-spreadsheet-scandal-should-kill-obama-s-social-security-cut-1366553100

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The Scandal

But they were wrong. Thomas Herndon, Michael Ash, and Robert Pollin analyzed their original Excel spreadsheet and discovered a simple and significant calculation error. When it was corrected, the 90 percent number became meaningless. Not just misinterpreted, as many people felt Reinhart and Rogoff had done at the time, but meaningless.

Paul Krugman – my “hero” – has a good writeup on this. Mike Konczal has an excellent overview. There’s more, including what appears to be some cherry-picking of information to support their thesis, but the bottom line is: The 90 percent red-line means nothing. Nothing happens when it’s crossed.

For the anti-government austerity crowd, however, the 2010 Reinhart/Rogoff paper was the right argument at the right time. They ignored economists like Josh Bivens, John Irons, and Dean Baker, who expressed doubts.

The new findings by Herndon, Ash, and Pollin are a very important story. I followed it with great interest, but didn’t think I had anything to add to it.
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Never should have been alive to begin with. yourout Apr 2013 #1
Hadn't Thought About it in Relationship to SS On the Road Apr 2013 #2
Right - take it further FogerRox Apr 2013 #16
Japan Tried Something Similar in the 90s On the Road Apr 2013 #22
Japan then and the US now, very different FogerRox Apr 2013 #27
Recommend. Triana Apr 2013 #3
it won't, he's totally invested in the charade... KG Apr 2013 #4
Exactly. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #6
As a side note to this, a recent study found that 88% of spreadsheets have errors: TheManInTheMac Apr 2013 #5
Unfortunately, they likely came up with that 88% figure on a spreadsheet (n/t) thesquanderer Apr 2013 #7
I was thinking that too, along with "78% of statistics are made up." TheManInTheMac Apr 2013 #8
Wow! Who knew? avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #9
Interesting piece, but it understates the badness of the Harvard conclusions caraher Apr 2013 #13
Mine don't underpants Apr 2013 #15
Think again. . . . h2ebits Apr 2013 #10
I have been pointing out for a long time that Timothy Geithner was a stealth JDPriestly Apr 2013 #11
I don't think Obama was deceived at all. Lasher Apr 2013 #17
I did not say that Obama was deceived, did I? JDPriestly Apr 2013 #24
I didn't realize Geithner was a protege of Pete Peterson. avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #19
Did you read the article at Nation of Change? JDPriestly Apr 2013 #23
"I first learned of the Administration’s plans to cut Social Security in a deep-background briefing" DJ13 Apr 2013 #12
A Famous Cyborg allinthegame Apr 2013 #14
K&R abelenkpe Apr 2013 #18
So what does that do to this chart? Lasher Apr 2013 #20
Sane minds and people over 62 will KILL Obama's offer to Rethugs Dan Ken Apr 2013 #21
Obama would just come up with some other phony justification to cut it. forestpath Apr 2013 #25
Great piece we should all read but I think Eskow is being a little too charitable. pa28 Apr 2013 #26
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