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130. it's not a logical distinction

Sun Apr 21, 2013, 10:01 PM

Apr 2013

the younger was led but he is just as sick as the bitter older one. You can place more blame on the older brother but the younger is just as pathological. I'm not going to villainize the older more than the younger. They are both mass murderers in cold blood. No getting around it.

The whole thing is a tragedy. If I pray any prayers it's for everyone involved, including the witnesses who were not physically harmed.
What does it do to a child (or any sensitive person) to see this?

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Prayers For Boston Bombing Suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Pour In After Arrest (WTF?) [View all] Tx4obama Apr 2013 OP

More conspiracy theorists and haters. It is sickening. graham4anything Apr 2013 #1

Yeah, devout Catholics following the works of Jesus are conspiracy theorists & haters me b zola Apr 2013 #81

You've never heard of Opus Dei, I take it. Initech Apr 2013 #106

The article in the OP quotes a Catholic praying for the suspect me b zola Apr 2013 #114

It's not fucked up... choie Apr 2013 #2

Me, too. randome Apr 2013 #3

Totally agree MaineLinePhilly Apr 2013 #10

+1 gateley Apr 2013 #12

amen (nm) smackd Apr 2013 #13

It's all too rare. Inspring to some, confusing to others. Gregorian Apr 2013 #17

It does Dorian Gray Apr 2013 #21

I also agree chillfactor Apr 2013 #40

+1 obnoxiousdrunk Apr 2013 #52

I totally agree. n/t arthritisR_US Apr 2013 #60

+ rug Apr 2013 #61

Matthew 5:44 Mariana Apr 2013 #64

I agree. We don't have to hate just because others do. Christ, who they follow, would have forgiven sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #70

+1 idwiyo Apr 2013 #101

I agree a sinner is seen as needing prayers for his soul treestar Apr 2013 #131

I'm praying for him too. As I am the victims. MrsMatt Apr 2013 #139

As an atheist, I only wish more Christian were like this. sadbear Apr 2013 #4

That's really nice to read Dorian Gray Apr 2013 #24

Exactly. idwiyo Apr 2013 #102

+1 n/t OneGrassRoot Apr 2013 #137

Pray for the misguided, even criminals. Lex Apr 2013 #5

Thank you for some common sense ChazII Apr 2013 #128

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #6

No one has an ill word to say about the kid BainsBane Apr 2013 #7

There are four families who can certainly vouch for "was". n/t CakeGrrl Apr 2013 #26

of course BainsBane Apr 2013 #30

That is how religion should be. dkf Apr 2013 #8

We pray for all souls, lost or not. ananda Apr 2013 #9

Perhaps you pray that he may see the error of his ways. BayouBengal07 Apr 2013 #11

You are aware that Christians follow the teachings of Jesus, right? Barack_America Apr 2013 #14

They know. They're pretending they don't though. nt Poll_Blind Apr 2013 #23

You mean like "I come not in peace, but with a sword"??? I come to set families apart.? Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2013 #27

Umm, that's not hateful at all. reformist2 Apr 2013 #37

as a Christian..I do read my Bible chillfactor Apr 2013 #48

Sorry, logical fallacy you're invoking. No True Scotsman fallacy. Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2013 #63

Look, I'm not a person of religion, but I am a person of literature. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #74

Oh it's a metaphor. Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2013 #91

Get a grip MFrohike Apr 2013 #108

So how are you gonna criticize direct quotes? Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2013 #110

Look up the word paraphrase MFrohike Apr 2013 #121

Direct quotes. Pretty straightforward hatred of families. Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2013 #122

Do you own a hat with bells? MFrohike Apr 2013 #123

what do you not understand about direct quotes?? Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2013 #125

Your score is zero. Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2013 #140

? MFrohike Apr 2013 #141

You have said NOTHING that answers my question or refutes what I said. Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2013 #142

I was wrong MFrohike Apr 2013 #143

Answer my simple questions or quit wasting my time. Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2013 #144

I learned reading comprehension in 3rd grade. Apophis Apr 2013 #147

Do they put sugar on their porridge? N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #112

Oh brother, another bigot for iggie. nt Union Scribe Apr 2013 #50

Nothing bigoted about criticizing belief systems nt MellowDem Apr 2013 #59

Let's ask Cinderella if the shoe fits sarisataka Apr 2013 #67

We have criticism... MellowDem Apr 2013 #75

I will not say you are wrong sarisataka Apr 2013 #85

I think the way the term "bigot" is actually used... MellowDem Apr 2013 #92

One key issue with Christianity sarisataka Apr 2013 #99

Faith is irrational... MellowDem Apr 2013 #100

If someone believes the story of Cinderella actually happened ... FiveGoodMen Apr 2013 #146

Oh snap! Apophis Apr 2013 #148

I agree. Blue_In_AK Apr 2013 #138

This is why we are better than terrorists sarisataka Apr 2013 #15

well, at least some of us do not let hate consume us. choie Apr 2013 #33

amen chillfactor Apr 2013 #49

*Sigh* You are correct sarisataka Apr 2013 #54

That's true, but it's not usually by the same people Fumesucker Apr 2013 #103

Long ago I decided sarisataka Apr 2013 #104

We need him alive so that we can all learn why someone with such DinahMoeHum Apr 2013 #16

guess you're just not going to be satisfied until you exact that pound of flesh frylock Apr 2013 #18

I don't see any problem in it alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #19

It's true and it's beautiful.... Dorian Gray Apr 2013 #34

+1 mentalsolstice Apr 2013 #62

If I were a Christian, I would pray for Jesus to forgive him, and welcome his soul into Heaven arcane1 Apr 2013 #20

Doesn't look like anyone is supporting him or his actions... octothorpe Apr 2013 #22

Just give it a few days. LisaL Apr 2013 #29

It has started... Tx4obama Apr 2013 #135

You've never heard of prayers for bad people? RZM Apr 2013 #25

I don't have a problem with that part, but I wonder if they show the same level of ecstatic Apr 2013 #28

Yes, they do. nobodyspecial Apr 2013 #35

Yes, they do. It's a liberal concept, justice, not revenge. I saw another thread here today asking sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #82

Prayers for him do not mean you do not prosecute him nobodyspecial Apr 2013 #31

I'm not religious, but I'm praying for him to stay alive redStateBlueHeart Apr 2013 #32

I agree with you on that. Answers and justice. n/t Tx4obama Apr 2013 #38

No it's not fucked up nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #36

I'm praying for veganlush Apr 2013 #39

I'm not sure because it seems like a case of being influenced by an evil family member flamingdem Apr 2013 #46

he killed that eight year old boy veganlush Apr 2013 #77

That's huge especially as now we know he chose the placement of the bomb flamingdem Apr 2013 #80

I was nineteen once veganlush Apr 2013 #86

when i pick up after my dog outside... veganlush Apr 2013 #88

I was going to respond to your post chillfactor Apr 2013 #55

Odd to me, but it happens. CakeGrrl Apr 2013 #41

Talk about missing the point for the sake of outrage. (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2013 #42

That is actually exactly what the Christ character would do. MrSlayer Apr 2013 #43

He told his followers to do it, too. Mariana Apr 2013 #72

Yes, a real Christian would pray for this dude. MrSlayer Apr 2013 #83

It's the redemption schtick flamingdem Apr 2013 #44

I doubt they will send him money other than their taxes Amonester Apr 2013 #45

This atheist is pretty sure that's what "Jesus" would have wanted.. RedCappedBandit Apr 2013 #47

Matthew 5:44 PD Turk Apr 2013 #51

Woah, hold on buddy LittleBlue Apr 2013 #53

I suppose to people who have never been exposed to the fundamental principles of Christian belief Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #56

Whatever works. He's going to be imprisoned for the rest of his life. Zorra Apr 2013 #57

It is supposed to be one of the core beliefs of Christianity. Butterbean Apr 2013 #58

I'm glad. It's the way Christianity should be. Doesn't mean what he did is okay. nolabear Apr 2013 #65

I think it's very human to recognize that a young life has been destroyed here kenny blankenship Apr 2013 #66

This is a fantastic post. Barack_America Apr 2013 #71

it's not a logical distinction marions ghost Apr 2013 #130

This... a la izquierda Apr 2013 #133

The concept of prayer is "fucked up" IMHO MellowDem Apr 2013 #68

here are the results from the Huffington Post survey on that question Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #69

It's not f$cked up, Tx. Although I understand the outrage, it's the most Basic of most faiths Ecumenist Apr 2013 #73

Yeah, it's really f'ed up Christians act like Christians. Apophis Apr 2013 #76

The guy even backed over his own brother.... deaniac21 Apr 2013 #78

or so you were told... HiPointDem Apr 2013 #98

WTF, indeed... I hate contrarians in situations like this. MOTRDemocrat Apr 2013 #79

And some of the victims have not even been buried yet. n/t Tx4obama Apr 2013 #84

And some have not been fitted with their prosthetic limbs. StarryNite Apr 2013 #93

They're showing concern for their own eternal souls. Mariana Apr 2013 #89

take the high road...nt kimsterdemster Apr 2013 #87

Actually I don't think its fucked up. I really feel sorry for the kid nadine_mn Apr 2013 #90

I'm sure his fear was nothing compared StarryNite Apr 2013 #94

I know - and I never said it was nadine_mn Apr 2013 #97

I wonder how the victim's families StarryNite Apr 2013 #105

Here's the thing..I have compassion for everyone nadine_mn Apr 2013 #107

You have nothing to apologize for. StarryNite Apr 2013 #109

I will add something here which you have not thought out nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #113

I think you have more sympathy for the victims if you don't hate. nt Edim Apr 2013 #120

Boston is a pretty liberal town. i imagine some of them might actually be able to channel compassion KittyWampus Apr 2013 #117

So people "gave thanks to God" that he was taken .... Arugula Latte Apr 2013 #95

god's pretty lucky that way.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #115

In that case I will pray for Dick Cheney, Pat Robertson and Ted Nugent as well. Arugula Latte Apr 2013 #116

heeeheeeheee you devil you! Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #129

They could always see the light eventually treestar Apr 2013 #132

not everyone believes in "god" as a puppet master. KittyWampus Apr 2013 #118

True, but it is incredibly common to hear people express the sentiment that Arugula Latte Apr 2013 #119

Think I will say a prayer for you while I am at it. nt Live and Learn Apr 2013 #96

I'm reminded of the scene in Shawshank Redemption zeeland Apr 2013 #111

Praying for someone does not mean they do not have to face justice for their crimes BellaLuna Apr 2013 #124

The suspect is getting an especial pass from some usually "hang-em-high" trackfan Apr 2013 #126

Post #124 says it quite eloquently. ChazII Apr 2013 #127

Heaven forbid people pray for lost souls. a la izquierda Apr 2013 #134

#FreeJahar Campaign Shows Social Media Support for Bombing Suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Tx4obama Apr 2013 #136

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