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alcibiades_mystery

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82. Oh for goodness sake

Mon Apr 22, 2013, 08:48 AM

Apr 2013

I don't think you actually know anyone in the marijuana trade. Here's an axiom: anyone who sells marijuana, smokes marijuana. Different for crack, heroin, meth, but all pot dealers smoke pot. I'll just leave this out there for anyone to check their personal experiences against the claims.

The problem with the drug burn theory also goes to knowledge of the trade: retail level dealers don't get killed in triple murders for drug burns. There's not enough money at stake. And these dudes were at almost certainly retail level dealers. The guy Rafi is noted as never having a job, staying home all day, having "frequent visitors." In other words, he was moving dimes (one of his friends even says as much), twenties, half ounces and ounces (if you're the neighborhood wholesaler, you sell half-pounds and pounds to the retail dealers, which doesn't require frequent visitors). This is low level stuff. You burn a source at that level, and the response is not to front you anymore, which would cause your business to collapse pretty quickly. It would be a bizarre response to take on three bodies for that - indeed, it simply doesn't happen, even among seasoned killers in the drug gangs.

I doubt this is a drug murder. These guys weren't moving enough weight or money.

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�Boston Bomber's� Former Friends Suspect Him In Triple Murder [View all] dkf Apr 2013 OP

If so Warpy Apr 2013 #1

Now that would be an extra twist on this twist. dkf Apr 2013 #2

"Tam" never had a J. O. B. EVER. The guy had zero visible means of support. MADem Apr 2013 #3

Then he'd have taken the money Warpy Apr 2013 #4

They thought there were two other men with the victims before the murder. dkf Apr 2013 #5

Could be Warpy Apr 2013 #6

It looks like an initiation FarCenter Apr 2013 #74

'Cause nothing says low-key like a triple homocide n/t Scootaloo Apr 2013 #79

Cutting the throats of a drug dealer and two Jews says you're a genuine jihadi n/t FarCenter Apr 2013 #88

On the night of September 11, no less. reformist2 Apr 2013 #92

I wouldn't know. Is there a guidebook for this? Scootaloo Apr 2013 #105

It's the way the Mafia do it... FarCenter Apr 2013 #111

How do you know he didn't? MADem Apr 2013 #8

Five grand is a lot of money. LisaL Apr 2013 #9

It's pennies if there was a hundred grand in the house. MADem Apr 2013 #95

They weren't living all that large. LisaL Apr 2013 #11

The younger one recently boasted about wearing $900 shoes. Warpy Apr 2013 #13

But he could have been wearing cheap knock offs and bragging. LisaL Apr 2013 #14

Older had an apartment, a house in the burbs, Mercedes, wife, child, and took a 6 month Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #81

Wife had a job. LisaL Apr 2013 #84

Ah. So did she also pay for the cars, toys, his apartment, the brother's dorm, the classes Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #85

She worked as a "home health aide." MADem Apr 2013 #94

His wife was an American, I believe. nt tblue37 Apr 2013 #100

She is, a young woman from N. Kingstown RI MADem Apr 2013 #108

Unless I've missed something, elleng Apr 2013 #10

No, they had a older model Mercedes-according to the car mechanic that was working on it. LisaL Apr 2013 #12

Used Mercedes are still expensive: elleng Apr 2013 #16

I don't know where he was getting his money. LisaL Apr 2013 #17

Like the Taliban? dkf Apr 2013 #18

What does Taliban have to do with any of it? LisaL Apr 2013 #19

The Taliban is in the business of selling drugs yet they are very religious. dkf Apr 2013 #22

If it was a drug deal gone bad, LisaL Apr 2013 #25

Maybe he freaked out? Although they do seem to be pretty cool even when committing heinous acts. dkf Apr 2013 #28

I think whoever did it was angry at the victim(s). LisaL Apr 2013 #32

It makes sense if you are leaving a message, a warning to others who will know what that means. MADem Apr 2013 #33

While I agree it looks like a message, I totally disagree on what the message was about. LisaL Apr 2013 #38

Why didn't he get annoyed with his sister's boyfriend, then, if he was so opposed to drugs? MADem Apr 2013 #54

It doesn't make sense for anyone to do that caseymoz Apr 2013 #48

Afghan hashish is some of the best in the world. And they are Numbah One in the heroin trade. MADem Apr 2013 #58

This was pot. Not heroin. LisaL Apr 2013 #89

I know it was pot that was sprinkled over the dead--perhaps all the MADem Apr 2013 #91

Check out post 103, the link. MADem Apr 2013 #104

Maybe he was selling or distributing drugs--like his sister's boyfriend. MADem Apr 2013 #52

Oh for goodness sake alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #82

I don't believe this was related to a drug deal got bad either. LisaL Apr 2013 #83

Again--how do you know these guys were "retail level?" MADem Apr 2013 #98

I actually told you how I know alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #101

I think you are thinking of these three as a unit, when the MADem Apr 2013 #102

Depends on how old.. sendero Apr 2013 #63

He had a Mercedes in the "Will Box For Passport" piece and he drove his wife to see her MADem Apr 2013 #39

Thanks. Didn't watch that piece. elleng Apr 2013 #40

It was a photoessay; it was up on the web but then the photographer put MADem Apr 2013 #46

I don't think the mercedes in that video belonged to him. I think it was for the filming. I saw HiPointDem Apr 2013 #15

In one article, I read that he drove his wife to see her mother every weekend in a Mercedes. MADem Apr 2013 #27

They definitely need to look at forensics. LisaL Apr 2013 #30

that video is the one where in whatever i read the implication was that the get-up & the car HiPointDem Apr 2013 #34

There are two mentions of Mercedes vehicles... MADem Apr 2013 #42

i'm just reporting what i read. i'm not particularly interested in his (supposed) amazon wish list, HiPointDem Apr 2013 #45

If you aren't interested in 'this level of investigation' I don't understand why you are MADem Apr 2013 #47

i originally posted what i had read elsewhere; you responded with his amazon list, which i don't HiPointDem Apr 2013 #49

Slate, Salon, a number of news sites have it. You will have to ask them. MADem Apr 2013 #56

as i said: the last time i bought something off an amazon wishlist, the person gave me the password. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #61

That person you knew didn't want their list to be public. MADem Apr 2013 #64

you dont know *what* his account was set as. you don't know how slate or whatever got the HiPointDem Apr 2013 #66

You just want to fight about what others are "allowed" to talk about here. MADem Apr 2013 #68

i'm not doing any such thing. i've made no comments about what others should talk about. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #71

I'm not nasty, and I don't tell people what they should or shouldn't talk about. MADem Apr 2013 #76

i didn't characterize *your remarks* that way. i characterized the publication of the suspect's HiPointDem Apr 2013 #109

You've been going on about witch hunts and making disparaging remarks about every MADem Apr 2013 #112

So he could have been part of the Russian Mafia, although being from Chechnya is that likely? sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #73

The Chechens are big into drug smuggling--heroin, mostly, from MADem Apr 2013 #75

Interesting, I didn't know the father was actually Chechen. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #80

I've read that the boys are half Chechen and half Avar FarCenter Apr 2013 #90

The mother is Avar. They look very Persian, many of them. nt MADem Apr 2013 #93

I thought they looked like what they turned out to be .... REP Apr 2013 #96

With those two, though, if you scratch the surface, the patina is thin. MADem Apr 2013 #110

They also look Armenian... KoKo Apr 2013 #106

No one is trying to pin them into an ethnic loyalty. MADem Apr 2013 #107

Yes...I do know some history of that Area...How dismissive of you to think that I didn't... KoKo Apr 2013 #121

I think you are reading into my post attitudes that MADem Apr 2013 #122

Me too marions ghost Apr 2013 #119

Looking back at it now, I take your point about the body language. MADem Apr 2013 #123

Yes, his brother made a point of mentioning it, and MADem Apr 2013 #99

That makes it hard to even guess at the motives for what they did. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #124

Maybe one was a means to an end. MADem Apr 2013 #125

I wonder what else the boss could put him up to? malaise Apr 2013 #62

I wonder why he traveled to Russia in JAN, and didn't get there till MAR. MADem Apr 2013 #65

Interesting malaise Apr 2013 #70

Yes he did, he was a car mechanic Turborama Apr 2013 #50

That was his FATHER.....he worked like a dog; sometimes repairing cars in the street MADem Apr 2013 #51

I'm in no way defending him, but I'm a stay at home dad. Turborama Apr 2013 #55

You would be a loser if you stayed at home and your child stayed in a different MADem Apr 2013 #57

That's not what stay at home dads do, though. Turborama Apr 2013 #59

Well, yeah. I'll bet you don't beat your wife, girlfriend or sister, either. MADem Apr 2013 #60

Yes, I read the father could never get past the language barrier and couldn't polly7 Apr 2013 #97

Additional articles on the links below regarding the unsolved murders Tx4obama Apr 2013 #7

We've got a psycho, bomber, jihadist, alienated, drug dealer, stay-at-home dad, boxer flamingdem Apr 2013 #20

Lol. dkf Apr 2013 #26

Fingerprints on cash identify Tamerlan Tsernaev as 'D.B. Cooper' ... DreamGypsy Apr 2013 #21

Very funny. LisaL Apr 2013 #23

Tamerlan Tsernaev found two objects called the Urim and Thummim ... DreamGypsy Apr 2013 #24

Tamerlan Tsernaev is source of "alien autopsy" .. DreamGypsy Apr 2013 #29

Look. This is getting to be very annoying. LisaL Apr 2013 #31

like some of the news reports aren't nonsense as well. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #36

You got a point there, judge. (nt) DreamGypsy Apr 2013 #37

Tamerlan Tsernaev finds evidence of Piltdown Man ... DreamGypsy Apr 2013 #35

He said he didn't have any American friends because he probably murdered them. dookers Apr 2013 #41

A sure way not to have many friends N/T dems_rightnow Apr 2013 #67

Thanks for all the 'fun' about Tam this morning, guys. elleng Apr 2013 #43

HuffPo has a link under the top photo on front page that says: "Did the Slain Suspect Kill Before?" Tx4obama Apr 2013 #44

Where are all the "DO NOT DARE SPECULATE!!" DU'ers now? WinkyDink Apr 2013 #78

Now, we all know he WAS capable of murder. Quantess Apr 2013 #53

Of course they do, MadHound Apr 2013 #69

Good point, but the apparent odds he did it are a lot higher than they were last week. reformist2 Apr 2013 #72

That and five bucks will get you........ People trying to fill in blanks with ZEE-RO info. WinkyDink Apr 2013 #77

I think they are probably right BootinUp Apr 2013 #86

When I read that story.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2013 #87

ABC has picked this up: MADem Apr 2013 #103

"And their throats were slashed right out of an al Qaeda training video." reformist2 Apr 2013 #113

There are also reports that FIVE GUYS lived in that apartment. MADem Apr 2013 #114

If it was over selling little brother weed, then little brother is also good for the murder FarCenter Apr 2013 #115

Three dead, but the neighbor says five lived there. MADem Apr 2013 #116

I still do not understand Tamerlan's living arrangements. dkf Apr 2013 #117

Her parents have put their house on the market. MADem Apr 2013 #126

If it was over weed, it seems odd that Tamerlan would be friends with this guy at all... reformist2 Apr 2013 #118

Tamerlan's brain should be autopsied for CTE glinda Apr 2013 #120