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9. Origin of the term "Caucasian"

Mon Apr 22, 2013, 11:30 AM

Apr 2013

Origin of the term "Caucasian"

According to Leonti Mroveli, the 11th century Georgian chronicler, the word Caucasian is derived from the Vainakh ancestor Kavkas.

"The Vainakhs are the ancient natives of the Caucasus. It is noteworthy, that according to the genealogical table drawn up by Leonti Mroveli, the legendary forefather of the Vainakhs was "Kavkas", hence the name Kavkasians, one of the ethnicons met in the ancient Georgian written sources, signifying the ancestors of the Chechens and Ingush.

As appears from the above, the Vainakhs, at least by name, are presented as the most "Caucasian" people of all the Caucasians (Caucasus - Kavkas - Kavkasians) in the Georgian historical tradition.

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Are the Tsarnaev brothers white? [View all] DonViejo Apr 2013 OP

Why are people so obsessed with this? What does skin color have to do with anything? Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #1

Because when Timothy McVeigh committed a terrorist act treestar Apr 2013 #26

I'm not sure how OJ fits in here Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #34

The labels that seem to be sticking are foreign and muslim. ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #2

Lone Wolves RobinA Apr 2013 #32

There are some unanswered question that leave those topics open ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #36

They look like Jesus probably looked. Smarmie Doofus Apr 2013 #3

Not really, Jesus was a Nazarene. Ikonoklast Apr 2013 #24

Of course they are white. They are whiter than me and whiter than most americans. CBGLuthier Apr 2013 #4

Origin of the term "Caucasian" Ichingcarpenter Apr 2013 #9

Assuming their ancestors haven't migrated to the Caucasion Mts, they are the whitest people byeya Apr 2013 #10

Fanaticism is not defined by religion, race, or country of origin. n/t Avalux Apr 2013 #5

But it can be encouraged by organized groups that are defined by categories. Kablooie Apr 2013 #11

I love that cat clip on your post! nt avebury Apr 2013 #13

You can just hear the cat going ... Kablooie Apr 2013 #17

I doubt such a nuanced defintion of the word white was being used The2ndWheel Apr 2013 #6

White as defined in your first paragraph is EXACTLY what was meant. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2013 #12

then be surprised. I was thinking more along the lines of Dylan/Kliebold, magical thyme Apr 2013 #16

Harris, Klebold, McVeigh, etc aren't Caucasus white though The2ndWheel Apr 2013 #28

but I don't think you got my point magical thyme Apr 2013 #43

What makes the authors think Al Qaeda terrorists are any different? Recursion Apr 2013 #7

Yes nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #8

Racist -- and not-so-racist -- Russians would say no. Brickbat Apr 2013 #14

Both sides of this issue got something. Beacool Apr 2013 #15

What the fuck does it really matter?? B2G Apr 2013 #18

They have curly hair and big noses, so they are not really white. FarCenter Apr 2013 #19

These kinds of discussions definitely prove that color isn't what defines color lately. (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2013 #20

"because of FBI concerns about his possible ties to Islamic radicals" KamaAina Apr 2013 #21

People trying to label them anything just come across looking bad. reformist2 Apr 2013 #22

"Because the world H2O Man Apr 2013 #23

Being Muslims treestar Apr 2013 #25

That's the Crux of It RobinA Apr 2013 #37

True. I imagine Pam Geller is happy about this. She can continue her anti-Muslim tirades while pampango Apr 2013 #41

They are LITERALLY Caucasian librechik Apr 2013 #27

And the twisting that Joan is going through looks painful B2G Apr 2013 #29

I Didn't Think RobinA Apr 2013 #39

Muslims represent the whole human rainbow Warpy Apr 2013 #30

The whole purpose of the "being white" has nothing to do with skin color. It's about motivation. hughee99 Apr 2013 #31

+1000 B2G Apr 2013 #33

Just curious Separation Apr 2013 #35

I work with several Bosnians and Albanians NickB79 Apr 2013 #38

Of course they are. The word Caucasian comes from the Caucasus area where they are from. Cleita Apr 2013 #40

If "real" white people apply any descriptor when referencing the brothers Capt. Obvious Apr 2013 #42