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oldhippie

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21. Exactly. One does not "shoot their way into" ......

Reply to FBaggins (Reply #14)

Mon Apr 22, 2013, 03:25 PM

Apr 2013

.... a high security installation. Due to the work I used to do, I've been in a few, including the NMCC in the Pentagon, Raven Rock Mountain, CIA HQ, the basement of the big black building at Fort Meade, Cheyenne Mountain, and a few others that I won't mention. I've been in the control room of a nuclear plant (though it is now closed). They are all specifically designed to prevent any number of people being able to "shoot their way in." They are protected by dedicated people and sophisticated systems and procedures. There are vulnerabilities, which I obviously won't go into, but armed assault by persons with guns isn't one of them.

The weakest security I ever saw was the perimeter around the USS Alaska as it was being reloaded with new warheads for it's Trident missiles. I was hoping that there was a lot of security that I wasn't seeing.

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Gunman Sought After Shootout at Nuclear Power Plant in Tennessee [View all] grahamhgreen Apr 2013 OP

"adequate" really doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling ... Myrina Apr 2013 #1

My thought exactly, but WTF? Was that one person doing advance work for a real attack? Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #2

No... a person with a gun does not present any danger to a reactor. FBaggins Apr 2013 #3

Agreed. But who knows what else this individual or individuals were up to! grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #6

"Some level of threat" to other people... FBaggins Apr 2013 #7

The monument can not melt down by simply shutting down its cooling systems, the reactor can. grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #10

You don't shut down a cooling system by flipping a switch NickB79 Apr 2013 #11

A guy with a gun can't "shut down the cooling system" FBaggins Apr 2013 #12

Your assuming 1) the individual is not trained in how to operate the plant. grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #15

I don't have to assume anything... FBaggins Apr 2013 #20

If it were that frigging easy, terrorists would have taken over years ago. TheMadMonk Apr 2013 #4

That's why the terror threat has been so obviously over-hyped. However, ALL grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #8

Fertiliser bomb iin a boat still won't do it. IIRC those places are hardened... TheMadMonk Apr 2013 #24

And what, exactly, do you think "a person with a gun" ... oldhippie Apr 2013 #5

It's what he represents, he got away. There is some threat to the reactor when a grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #9

Realistically? SWAT storms the reactor and restarts the cooling system NickB79 Apr 2013 #13

I'll disagree there. FBaggins Apr 2013 #16

Which is at least some level of threat to the reactor. grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #17

How does he "shoot his way in there"? FBaggins Apr 2013 #14

Exactly. One does not "shoot their way into" ...... oldhippie Apr 2013 #21

What worries me is the cavalier attitude, grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #29

Piffle! I laugh away ..... oldhippie Apr 2013 #18

BS. I have been in too many. grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #26

After a certain point hypothetical scenarios are a little too absurd. (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2013 #28

Reconnaissance. Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #19

Pretty unlikely FBaggins Apr 2013 #22

well, if that was an unusual event onethatcares Apr 2013 #23

The reactor is contained within a concrete containment building. NutmegYankee Apr 2013 #25

I should hope that constitutes an "unusual event." (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2013 #27

Tennessee has a Nuke Event SidDithers Apr 2013 #30