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Cal33

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23. Fat chance of this ever happening. I voted both times for Obama, but

Mon Apr 22, 2013, 05:05 PM

Apr 2013

I don't regret it. Just look at the alternative. It's even worse.
A complete Fascist takeover has been prevented until 2016, at
which time, we'll see how the elections will go.

It seems to me that Hillary Clinton will not be too much unlike
Obama. I'd rather take my chances and vote for Sen. Sanders,
Elizabeth Warren, or Alan Grayson. It's high time that we get a
real Democrat -- for a change. I've had it up to here with
Centrists. No more Centrists for me!!

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Voters Think Obama Is Trying To Take Their Social Security, Medicare and Retirement. [View all] TheMastersNemesis Apr 2013 OP

IMO, he is. n/t Triana Apr 2013 #1

Exactly. Myrina Apr 2013 #2

He is. There's no getting around it. duffyduff Apr 2013 #10

+1000 forestpath Apr 2013 #16

+1 leftstreet Apr 2013 #21

+1 ctsnowman Apr 2013 #60

yes - I can no longer convince myself demokatgurrl Apr 2013 #82

If you believe what he says, and watch what he does, then he absolutely is. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #120

Yeah... Populist_Prole Apr 2013 #3

The Most Aggravating Thing About Obama Is He Demands His Base STFU. The GOP On The Other Hand - TheMastersNemesis Apr 2013 #6

Can't agree more Populist_Prole Apr 2013 #9

Maybe he knows his base has the brains to understand nuance and compromise where Pisces Apr 2013 #39

It's insidious Third Way propaganda Oilwellian Apr 2013 #42

/\ yep G_j Apr 2013 #115

Any evidence other than a strong desire that this were so? (nt) Recursion Apr 2013 #4

... woo me with science Apr 2013 #24

nice WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2013 #38

So, no. Got it. Recursion Apr 2013 #40

Great rebuttal. bvar22 Apr 2013 #86

Good idea. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #106

Please, please do. woo me with science Apr 2013 #109

Thank you. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #105

"Voters think"? Good thing he isn't running again, huh? NightWatcher Apr 2013 #5

Good thing Obama's not a Democrat because voters might connect him with the party otherwise Fumesucker Apr 2013 #14

+100000 woo me with science Apr 2013 #53

heh SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #124

That is right being that he is a slightly less betterdemsonly Apr 2013 #29

Trying to defend the President has become an impossible task. Scuba Apr 2013 #7

Is it too much to expect our Democratic President do something like this? bvar22 Apr 2013 #8

That one hurts. woo me with science Apr 2013 #83

It hurts more than words can say. denem Apr 2013 #116

Exactly right. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #121

I was afraid of this. I knew this whole chained cpi thing would blow up in our faces. CTyankee Apr 2013 #11

Maybe you don't understand their goals zipplewrath Apr 2013 #12

his stand can be used against them in repub. propaganda for years to come. That to me is CTyankee Apr 2013 #19

Against them? zipplewrath Apr 2013 #22

but what good is it when the repubs can use it against us? CTyankee Apr 2013 #26

"We"? zipplewrath Apr 2013 #34

Look, can you tell me what you are thinking here? I'm truly wondering. CTyankee Apr 2013 #41

Your goals aren't the White House goals zipplewrath Apr 2013 #50

Oh, I get you now. I guess we wait and see... CTyankee Apr 2013 #61

The patient push to awakening. woo me with science Apr 2013 #65

not sure that is the correct answer, but it is one explanation. As I said, we shall see... CTyankee Apr 2013 #85

You won't have to wait long to see THIS: bvar22 Apr 2013 #88

I don't buy that he wasn't serious or bluffing. And you are right about breaking the taboo. CTyankee Apr 2013 #89

Krugman hasn't been always right. bvar22 Apr 2013 #93

I see it as him throwing to the VSP chained cpi as a kind of delaying tactic. I don't think it CTyankee Apr 2013 #95

I haven't read what krugman said about NAFTA, Free Trade and Free Markets... CTyankee Apr 2013 #100

Here is my view, CTYankee, woo me with science Apr 2013 #94

Oh, thank you for your kind words! I am so honored that you feel this way. I did not CTyankee Apr 2013 #96

Thank you. That was really beautiful, woo me with science Apr 2013 #99

What makes you think they didn't? n/t Oilwellian Apr 2013 #43

You were afraid that a couple of guys on a golf course would complain that Obama is stealing their pampango Apr 2013 #44

I see. an evil plot hatched on a golf course to hand over the USA to the republican party. CTyankee Apr 2013 #90

Why? CountAllVotes Apr 2013 #58

This. Pelosi and the rest are all very, VERY WEALTHY. closeupready Apr 2013 #64

Feinstein is another one CountAllVotes Apr 2013 #71

Yep. Feinstein is just awful, and a hypocrite. closeupready Apr 2013 #72

She is one of my senators CountAllVotes Apr 2013 #75

Oh, yeah - I remember a lot of that. closeupready Apr 2013 #80

Did you vote for Mike Strimling in the primaries last year? I did. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #101

No CountAllVotes Apr 2013 #110

He's a Democrat. And a true Progressive. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #114

well, all right, then... CTyankee Apr 2013 #91

IMO, no matter how much we want it, his goal is not to preserve the traditional Democratic Party AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #112

Your premise depends upon accurately understanding their goals. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #122

The solution is for the President to admit he has been werong on this issue, and to back up these... Faryn Balyncd Apr 2013 #13

Fat chance of this ever happening. I voted both times for Obama, but Cal33 Apr 2013 #23

X2 ctsnowman Apr 2013 #62

Welcome to DU, and may your future posts be longer than this one. :) Cal33 Apr 2013 #73

This is very reminiscent of "Vote Nader" from 2000. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #103

You are right. When push comes to shove, I'll vote for any Democrat rather Cal33 Apr 2013 #123

I understand your frustration, but realistically speaking, BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #125

I guess they just don't understand eleventy dimension chess. forestpath Apr 2013 #15

Well you should defend him, because he has not proposed eliminating the programs treestar Apr 2013 #17

Good god. woo me with science Apr 2013 #27

That's what the people in the OP's story were saying treestar Apr 2013 #33

That's not a controversial belief, is it? closeupready Apr 2013 #18

"A couple of guys" = "voters." Wow. You need to get out more. yellowcanine Apr 2013 #20

When Obama (or Clinton) PROPOSES something it is no longer a "GOP initiative" Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #25

+1000 Reality is, apparently, unpleasant. woo me with science Apr 2013 #47

Voters are not blind. woo me with science Apr 2013 #28

If it looks like a duck...... MichiganVote Apr 2013 #30

This is actually his education policy duffyduff Apr 2013 #46

Thank you for posting this. woo me with science Apr 2013 #84

HA, what a joke. Pisces Apr 2013 #31

Oh, they're Federal Employees? AnnieBW Apr 2013 #32

...And yet, Jamaal510 Apr 2013 #35

If those voters were over the age of, about, 60... PennsylvaniaMatt Apr 2013 #36

Congress makes the law, not the President. nt bemildred Apr 2013 #37

What an utterly ridiculous response. woo me with science Apr 2013 #45

The "reality" is that Congress makes the laws, not the President. bemildred Apr 2013 #48

"Anything," indeed. You know, these responses are woo me with science Apr 2013 #54

Name calling is not much of an argument. nt bemildred Apr 2013 #55

I have not "name-called." You, on the other hand, woo me with science Apr 2013 #57

That's it, double down. nt bemildred Apr 2013 #59

It is what he does. Puts words in people's mouth, too. emulatorloo Apr 2013 #68

And again, no substantive response. Just a personal swipe. woo me with science Apr 2013 #70

I engaged with you early on in discussion. But you always move the goal posts. emulatorloo Apr 2013 #74

Please post your many links. woo me with science Apr 2013 #77

Yes, because you excel at putting words in other people's mouths. emulatorloo Apr 2013 #81

pass the buck usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #98

Pass the buck to where the buck properly belongs. bemildred Apr 2013 #119

That's the danger of becoming the face of government. Orsino Apr 2013 #49

Harry S. Truman: "The buck stops here." woo me with science Apr 2013 #56

He hasn't taken any actions to protect it, then his budget looks like it will. liberal N proud Apr 2013 #51

Some people may not know or may have forgotten what Rove perfected. Avalux Apr 2013 #52

Obama put the cuts on the table, woo me with science Apr 2013 #63

You Have A Point. Obama's Policies Become His Policies. TheMastersNemesis Apr 2013 #66

Two guys on a golf course? emulatorloo Apr 2013 #67

The Public Golf Course I Play Almost Like A Country Club Politically. TheMastersNemesis Apr 2013 #69

We'll see how it plays out. In the meantime worth calling our Sens and Reps. emulatorloo Apr 2013 #76

Exactly!! The OP lost me at "two guys on a golf course"!! Yeah, like they're really Obama supporters Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #108

if it were shrubby proposing these cuts RedstDem Apr 2013 #78

"cool story bro" ecstatic Apr 2013 #79

No Wall St. is taking our Social Security, Medicare, and Retirement. Initech Apr 2013 #87

That is it in a nutshell. Rex Apr 2013 #92

we the people, are not as stupid as our owners think we are usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #97

And they are right! Marketing spin cannot not hide the DLC right wing agenda BS on point Apr 2013 #102

I wonder how long it would take before another anti-Obama thread on Democratic Underground BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #104

Obama *IS* the *BEST* Democratic president! The best!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #107

???? 1-Old-Man Apr 2013 #113

Apart from the Japanese Internment camps, yes, he was the best. Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #117

The game he is playing is called "dollar bill on a string" Generic Other Apr 2013 #111

We are not even Newest Reality Apr 2013 #118

"If Obama is the best Democratic president that we can field, then the country is doomed..." emsimon33 Apr 2013 #126

Old, white, conservative men who play Golf were never Dawson Leery Apr 2013 #127

Thanks for posting this tularetom Apr 2013 #128