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Douglas Carpenter

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28. if I could believe Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was innocent I would be his most passionate defender

Mon Apr 22, 2013, 08:24 PM

Apr 2013

For as long as I can remember I have found a need to argue the unpopular cause that I knew beyond a reasonable doubt and for a moral certainty was the truth and was right.

But so far I have found no reason to believe Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is innocent. I do find the case mind boggling. But that happens sometimes with brutal crimes. Someone who everyone who knew them thought they were a really nice person goes out and does something really evil. There are lots and lots of criminal cases like that - although they are the relatively rare exception rather than the rule.

But if someone can present any evidence that that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is innocent I would certainly welcome hearing it. But so far everything I have heard along those lines sounds like far-fetched conspiracy theory.

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The Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Admiration Society [View all] dkf Apr 2013 OP

oh jebus nt. anneboleyn Apr 2013 #1

The Beliebers have a new hero. liberalmuse Apr 2013 #2

He's cute. Quantess Apr 2013 #3

Probably not so much with holes in his neck and mouth and hands, though. randome Apr 2013 #8

Girls dig scars. jessie04 Apr 2013 #9

I don't know how to process that except...LOL! randome Apr 2013 #10

or when he's planting a bomb next to you... anneboleyn Apr 2013 #37

Not only is he cute malaise Apr 2013 #11

He looks like a nice boy Quantess Apr 2013 #46

He's cute and his older brother is hot, like it or not flamingdem Apr 2013 #47

I thought so, too, until I saw this pic: Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #58

wow he looks much better flamingdem Apr 2013 #75

the older brother was a butterface JI7 Apr 2013 #74

wait wait did you see this photo, the camera lens can make anyone look extra schnozed flamingdem Apr 2013 #78

yeah, posed and uses the glasses to cover up much of his face , and he looks like a douche JI7 Apr 2013 #80

The leather pants are as out of style flamingdem Apr 2013 #83

Why, I can see that he wouldn't even hurt a fly. Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #55

Weird phenomenon. Ted Bundy was "cute" and girls flocked to his courtroom appearances anneboleyn Apr 2013 #36

Beat me to it. That's exactly why. nt Zorra Apr 2013 #56

you think the guy who started it thinks he's cute? KittyWampus Apr 2013 #59

maybe, it might be the same guy who wanted TJ Lane free JI7 Apr 2013 #85

Yup. If he didn't look like this... WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #61

In Mississippi? Ms Jolly is in for a world of hassle from other Southerners, I think. nt DonViejo Apr 2013 #4

This is why I support the death penalty if he is convicted. zappaman Apr 2013 #5

Understand the sentiment to a point. Yet many murderers have fans for some convoluted reason. pinto Apr 2013 #14

that's a crudly reason to support it. cali Apr 2013 #25

That's why? That's bizarre. morningfog Apr 2013 #96

Some girl will marry him in prison. jessie04 Apr 2013 #6

I hope he doesn't get the opportunity to stoke a following flamingdem Apr 2013 #18

That's fucking ridiculous. If sentenced to life he'll be sent to a Supermax prison cali Apr 2013 #34

I was trying to be funny. jessie04 Apr 2013 #40

Annnnd, away weeee go! It's only the beginning. Social media is conspiracy pig pen. chelsea0011 Apr 2013 #7

They can tweet to their hearts' content. He'll be tried in a civil court, with a lawyer, rules of pinto Apr 2013 #12

Unless he pleads guilty to avoid the death penalty. randome Apr 2013 #17

Yeah, that may be the scenario. I've heard legal talking heads say it is best option. pinto Apr 2013 #30

fucking idiots JI7 Apr 2013 #13

Dershowitz said something about him having an "angelic" face JI7 Apr 2013 #15

yep, hot terrorists in fast cars who need to be "rescued" emotionally flamingdem Apr 2013 #16

haaa haaa!!!!!!!!!! LeftInTX Apr 2013 #22

yeehaw! and who plant bombs next to little kids! (sarcasm) anneboleyn Apr 2013 #62

that's what makes 'em.. flamingdem Apr 2013 #66

everybody knows he did it Enrique Apr 2013 #19

The cockroaches crawl out of the walls. longship Apr 2013 #20

Rose and Valerie, screaming from the gallery say he must go free. trackfan Apr 2013 #21

But as those words are leaving his lips, a noise comes from behind Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #53

I can just imagine jury selection LeftInTX Apr 2013 #23

I think some serious CONJUGAL visits are in his future. jessie04 Apr 2013 #24

The same idiot teenage girls who fuck up American Idol! It's Sanjaya all over again! El Fuego Apr 2013 #26

Why should THEY be on an FBI list? All they are doing is reacting emotionally to something they sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #76

Just like us! FrodosPet Apr 2013 #90

If you're an adult who cares about American Idol you don't have much room to talk about kids Fumesucker Apr 2013 #91

"It's Sanjaya all over again!" Union Scribe Apr 2013 #94

Ermagerd alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #27

if I could believe Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was innocent I would be his most passionate defender Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #28

His mother says he's innocent.... jessie04 Apr 2013 #31

in my little town in PA - a young man sitting in a bar and in front of several eye witnesses Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #33

Wow. randome Apr 2013 #35

Did she say why the FBI would want to frame him? patricia92243 Apr 2013 #48

the parents are "truthers" who believe Islamic terrorism= Muslims getting framed. KittyWampus Apr 2013 #60

To try to save her son? markpkessinger Apr 2013 #93

Reality is stranger than fiction, because people are weirder than even writers can imagine. reformist2 Apr 2013 #29

There is something very appealing about his face. latebloomer Apr 2013 #32

Uh boy. City Lights Apr 2013 #38

Wouldn't it be prudent to at least wait and see what the suspect says? Nine Apr 2013 #39

Do you really believe hfojvt Apr 2013 #43

:-D (nt) Nine Apr 2013 #95

a lot of young people today MikeW Apr 2013 #41

by which you must mean hfojvt Apr 2013 #45

A lot of people of all ages have zero critical thinking skills. antigone382 Apr 2013 #51

Exactly. What a bunch of dumbass teenagers! smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #52

Hybristophilia (discovered this by accident) steve2470 Apr 2013 #42

So, there's a name for it. frogmarch Apr 2013 #57

Wow. Helps explain the love for Richard Ramirez, Manson, et al. Even Scott Peterson anneboleyn Apr 2013 #68

It sure seems to. frogmarch Apr 2013 #81

Additional article/link below Tx4obama Apr 2013 #44

Sick. nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #49

Innocent by way of reasonable good looks Matariki Apr 2013 #50

It doesn't surprise me. Beacool Apr 2013 #54

Well, many on this thread ignore that this was started by a GUY WHO KNEW HIM & the group was people KittyWampus Apr 2013 #63

Emily Jolly does not know him. She is one of his most ardent "fans" at this point anneboleyn Apr 2013 #67

Did she start the group? KittyWampus Apr 2013 #70

I think it is a bunch of tweets at this point, and then the guy who claims to know him anneboleyn Apr 2013 #71

To Emily: Get a life for chrisakes! nt BootinUp Apr 2013 #64

he does kind of look like Bob Dylan tralala Apr 2013 #65

who knows maybe he'll create the breakthrough where cultural values shift and flamingdem Apr 2013 #69

I should say "fuck you all," but I won't. Fawke Em Apr 2013 #72

Why does he think you are being racist? dkf Apr 2013 #73

Because I said "don't bomb people, don't hurt people." Fawke Em Apr 2013 #79

you think most terrorists are reading the quran all day living a "pure" life ? JI7 Apr 2013 #82

So you think all Muslims are terrorists? Fawke Em Apr 2013 #89

Crap... I should explain something here. Fawke Em Apr 2013 #86

It's a bummer that he took it that way. dkf Apr 2013 #87

how old is your son ? JI7 Apr 2013 #77

14 Fawke Em Apr 2013 #88

Can someone enlighten me--where does the term "false flag" come from? Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #84

Naval warfare Recursion Apr 2013 #92

Thanks for the explanation. nt Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #97