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In reply to the discussion: Assuming this all accurate, is this ok when searching for a fugitive? [View all]Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)* The police SUSPECT that a potential terrorist and cop killer might possibly be located in some neighborhood. They don't know it, they haven't seen him, they just think he might be. They advise local residents to remain indoors. How they did so is unknown, we don't know if everyone got this message, and in any case no citizen is under any obligation to listen to instructions like this.
* Somehow the police get word that someone might have been seen outside. They don't know who, they don't know why, they don't even know if it actually happened. Even assuming it was an actual person, they don't know it wasn't the home owner checking his property, filming the festivities, or just gazing at the stars. All of these things, including doing wind sprints in the backyard or riding a unicycle down main street, are illegal and the residents of that home had every right to do them without attracting an armed and dangerous assault and home invasion.
* Nothing that the police knew justified a use of force. Pointing machine guns at people is a use of force. Ordering people from their home is a use of force. Parading them down the street and subjecting them to multiple pat searches is a use of force. They never had ANY justification for any of it. None. They were in cool paramilitary us versus them mode, showing off for the TV cameras.
* They COULD have knocked on the door without weapons drawn, explained why they were there, asked if everything was okay, and then left. That alone, by the way, is borderline illegal (the police are not empowered to do random wellness checks and knock on people's doors without cause), but under the circumstances it is defensible. This gun toting home invasion nonsense is not.
Anyway, my hope is that every one of these officers loses their job, and definately the supervisors. Further, hopefully the victims in this family sue the hell out of them for violating their civil rights.
That's my opinion. You did a great job expressing your position, and if managed to do half as well I'd be pleased