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34. In this particular case, it meant "wanted to do something evil, but not be the bad guy."

Mon Apr 22, 2013, 09:59 PM

Apr 2013

It's possible to be motivated by religious fervor to do things that aren't evil also. You don't hear about that so much.

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Motivated by religious fervor. [View all] DesertFlower Apr 2013 OP

Exactly, same question here. elleng Apr 2013 #1

Some verses which seem to justify violence against unbelievers FrodosPet Apr 2013 #57

If you read it closely CJCRANE Apr 2013 #64

No doubt that is the view of reasonable, merciful people FrodosPet Apr 2013 #66

I agree CJCRANE Apr 2013 #67

It means that they were terrorists acting in the name of their religion... badtoworse Apr 2013 #2

but what does it accomplish? DesertFlower Apr 2013 #4

"what does it accomplish?" badtoworse Apr 2013 #8

Fundamentalism and rationality do not mix well. nt hack89 Apr 2013 #18

obviously not. DesertFlower Apr 2013 #19

LOL! then maybe you *should* read it. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #30

i've only read parts of the bible DesertFlower Apr 2013 #32

the koran is too. and it calls for killing unbelievers also. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #35

The old testament is full of genocide and ethnic cleansing FarCenter Apr 2013 #40

one thing i remember is DesertFlower Apr 2013 #42

Last time I checked, there weren't any Jewish or Christian jihads badtoworse Apr 2013 #58

Teutonic knights, reconquest of Spain, conquistadores in South America are less than 800 ya FarCenter Apr 2013 #61

I don't know...there are people who think the "War on Terror" CJCRANE Apr 2013 #62

WILL they be treated differently from other de facto terrorists - is what that's supposed to patrice Apr 2013 #3

Arguably, the most asinine DU post so far this year. badtoworse Apr 2013 #9

That was Rachel Maddow's question. Not the NRA's. patrice Apr 2013 #53

Bringing the NRA into this is still asinine badtoworse Apr 2013 #56

What's asinine is referring to others as asinine, because that is a divide & conquer tactic, patrice Apr 2013 #63

I never refer to people as asinine, but I do call them on what they post badtoworse Apr 2013 #68

I thought it an odd choice of words too. MindPilot Apr 2013 #5

What is the point of being PC about this? We all know the religion is Islam. badtoworse Apr 2013 #11

anyone remember ayeshahaqqiqa? DesertFlower Apr 2013 #6

I remember her Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #36

i've been in touch with her several times DesertFlower Apr 2013 #37

Rachel used a rhetorical question "What does it matter what their motive was" & she listed other patrice Apr 2013 #7

IMO it does matter. what DesertFlower Apr 2013 #12

Have you missed the ongong slaughter of Muslims by fundamentalist Muslims? hack89 Apr 2013 #20

so many things in this world are senseless. DesertFlower Apr 2013 #21

Tell me about it. hack89 Apr 2013 #22

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aye but the problem is where is the line? Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #33

You would understand a WHOLE lot more by learning about the Shia/Sunni Muslim split riderinthestorm Apr 2013 #38

So she discounts the victims of the primary weapons, the bombs, and claims this was Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #28

Your strawman argument won't play very well. longship Apr 2013 #51

patrice has twice said she talked about "other gun terrorism" muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #54

Jihadi? An extreme religious belief that includes the killing of innocents as promoting Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #10

like i said in another post, it's not like DesertFlower Apr 2013 #13

Many women in the marathon not in hijabs. Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #15

it certainly doesn't help their cause. in fact DesertFlower Apr 2013 #17

They seem to feel it helps their cause, or they wouldn't do it. Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #44

i remember, but i don't think all people DesertFlower Apr 2013 #45

That's an inaccurate story BTW. CJCRANE Apr 2013 #65

American western life goes against their religion, I've thought. Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #43

my answer to that is if you don't like our culture DesertFlower Apr 2013 #47

Is terrorism perpetrated by Islamic extremists really such an alien concept for you? (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #14

no, but many times a reason is given. DesertFlower Apr 2013 #16

same as this? Matariki Apr 2013 #23

even though they didn't do the killing i DesertFlower Apr 2013 #31

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Extremists don't need a "reason." Archae Apr 2013 #25

For radical Islam the "why" is contained in the name radical... Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #27

People who blow up abortion clinics are used torqued up by religion too. Lex Apr 2013 #29

In this particular case, it meant "wanted to do something evil, but not be the bad guy." dimbear Apr 2013 #34

true. nt DesertFlower Apr 2013 #39

conspiracy: what Boston person uses the word fervor? flamingdem Apr 2013 #41

That would be "ferva" FarCenter Apr 2013 #46

he he he you're right! evidence! nt flamingdem Apr 2013 #50

so am i. i think there's more DesertFlower Apr 2013 #49

I'm still trying to figure out how patriotism leads to organized mass murder. rug Apr 2013 #48

It's been going on for a few thousand years muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #55

I think mass murder governed by ideology (of whatever kind) is one of the first fruits of a state. rug Apr 2013 #59

See: Eric Rudolph Tom Ripley Apr 2013 #52

Religious fundies of all kinds are a danger. libtodeath Apr 2013 #60

Very true. but some are a lot more dangerous than others. badtoworse Apr 2013 #69