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longship

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51. Your strawman argument won't play very well.

Mon Apr 22, 2013, 11:35 PM

Apr 2013

That's not what she said. But you knew that, didn't you?

Calm down. Rachel has a political program. It is her job to leverage these issues. I don't always agree with her choices myself, but I would always watch her anyway, because she helps me to think.

Apparently, from your reaction here, she achieved that with you also. That's good. And that's why Rachel is also good.

Okay? Just maybe?

Thanks.

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Motivated by religious fervor. [View all] DesertFlower Apr 2013 OP

Exactly, same question here. elleng Apr 2013 #1

Some verses which seem to justify violence against unbelievers FrodosPet Apr 2013 #57

If you read it closely CJCRANE Apr 2013 #64

No doubt that is the view of reasonable, merciful people FrodosPet Apr 2013 #66

I agree CJCRANE Apr 2013 #67

It means that they were terrorists acting in the name of their religion... badtoworse Apr 2013 #2

but what does it accomplish? DesertFlower Apr 2013 #4

"what does it accomplish?" badtoworse Apr 2013 #8

Fundamentalism and rationality do not mix well. nt hack89 Apr 2013 #18

obviously not. DesertFlower Apr 2013 #19

LOL! then maybe you *should* read it. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #30

i've only read parts of the bible DesertFlower Apr 2013 #32

the koran is too. and it calls for killing unbelievers also. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #35

The old testament is full of genocide and ethnic cleansing FarCenter Apr 2013 #40

one thing i remember is DesertFlower Apr 2013 #42

Last time I checked, there weren't any Jewish or Christian jihads badtoworse Apr 2013 #58

Teutonic knights, reconquest of Spain, conquistadores in South America are less than 800 ya FarCenter Apr 2013 #61

I don't know...there are people who think the "War on Terror" CJCRANE Apr 2013 #62

WILL they be treated differently from other de facto terrorists - is what that's supposed to patrice Apr 2013 #3

Arguably, the most asinine DU post so far this year. badtoworse Apr 2013 #9

That was Rachel Maddow's question. Not the NRA's. patrice Apr 2013 #53

Bringing the NRA into this is still asinine badtoworse Apr 2013 #56

What's asinine is referring to others as asinine, because that is a divide & conquer tactic, patrice Apr 2013 #63

I never refer to people as asinine, but I do call them on what they post badtoworse Apr 2013 #68

I thought it an odd choice of words too. MindPilot Apr 2013 #5

What is the point of being PC about this? We all know the religion is Islam. badtoworse Apr 2013 #11

anyone remember ayeshahaqqiqa? DesertFlower Apr 2013 #6

I remember her Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #36

i've been in touch with her several times DesertFlower Apr 2013 #37

Rachel used a rhetorical question "What does it matter what their motive was" & she listed other patrice Apr 2013 #7

IMO it does matter. what DesertFlower Apr 2013 #12

Have you missed the ongong slaughter of Muslims by fundamentalist Muslims? hack89 Apr 2013 #20

so many things in this world are senseless. DesertFlower Apr 2013 #21

Tell me about it. hack89 Apr 2013 #22

---- DesertFlower Apr 2013 #26

aye but the problem is where is the line? Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #33

You would understand a WHOLE lot more by learning about the Shia/Sunni Muslim split riderinthestorm Apr 2013 #38

So she discounts the victims of the primary weapons, the bombs, and claims this was Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #28

Your strawman argument won't play very well. longship Apr 2013 #51

patrice has twice said she talked about "other gun terrorism" muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #54

Jihadi? An extreme religious belief that includes the killing of innocents as promoting Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #10

like i said in another post, it's not like DesertFlower Apr 2013 #13

Many women in the marathon not in hijabs. Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #15

it certainly doesn't help their cause. in fact DesertFlower Apr 2013 #17

They seem to feel it helps their cause, or they wouldn't do it. Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #44

i remember, but i don't think all people DesertFlower Apr 2013 #45

That's an inaccurate story BTW. CJCRANE Apr 2013 #65

American western life goes against their religion, I've thought. Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #43

my answer to that is if you don't like our culture DesertFlower Apr 2013 #47

Is terrorism perpetrated by Islamic extremists really such an alien concept for you? (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #14

no, but many times a reason is given. DesertFlower Apr 2013 #16

same as this? Matariki Apr 2013 #23

even though they didn't do the killing i DesertFlower Apr 2013 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author undeterred Apr 2013 #24

Extremists don't need a "reason." Archae Apr 2013 #25

For radical Islam the "why" is contained in the name radical... Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #27

People who blow up abortion clinics are used torqued up by religion too. Lex Apr 2013 #29

In this particular case, it meant "wanted to do something evil, but not be the bad guy." dimbear Apr 2013 #34

true. nt DesertFlower Apr 2013 #39

conspiracy: what Boston person uses the word fervor? flamingdem Apr 2013 #41

That would be "ferva" FarCenter Apr 2013 #46

he he he you're right! evidence! nt flamingdem Apr 2013 #50

so am i. i think there's more DesertFlower Apr 2013 #49

I'm still trying to figure out how patriotism leads to organized mass murder. rug Apr 2013 #48

It's been going on for a few thousand years muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #55

I think mass murder governed by ideology (of whatever kind) is one of the first fruits of a state. rug Apr 2013 #59

See: Eric Rudolph Tom Ripley Apr 2013 #52

Religious fundies of all kinds are a danger. libtodeath Apr 2013 #60

Very true. but some are a lot more dangerous than others. badtoworse Apr 2013 #69