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marions ghost

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23. Mass murderers are insane sociopaths. Period.

Tue Apr 23, 2013, 02:30 PM

Apr 2013

--whatever is adjudicated is whatever the system at the time decides. If they can get an insanity defense for one guy and not the other--it does not mean the other perp isn't every bit as insane. They just can't prove it. Happens all the time.

Motivations are similar. "I'm frustrated, pissed off and I feel like killing some people" is what it boils down to, in both cases. And for both, a depressed, fatalistic view of their own life worth prevents them from caring what happens. All the arguments about "they do it for glory" don't wash to me. I don't even think it's that rational.

Neither Lanza nor #1 was sane.

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Why Can't We See That Boston Is More Like Newtown Than 9/11? [View all] Coyotl Apr 2013 OP

because one was done by a kid who was off his fucking meds snooper2 Apr 2013 #1

If religion is the key to that, then let's ask what is the difference between sinkingfeeling Apr 2013 #21

I don't think those terms were floating around then, but in theory he should have been snooper2 Apr 2013 #28

Mindset became different after 911. merrily Apr 2013 #29

Not buying it. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #2

Not the pure evil as at Newtown? marions ghost Apr 2013 #3

"Murder is murder" WinniSkipper Apr 2013 #7

+1 Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #9

"same mental footing" marions ghost Apr 2013 #10

Sure WinniSkipper Apr 2013 #14

Mass murderers are insane sociopaths. Period. marions ghost Apr 2013 #23

It's just not that easy... Junkpet Apr 2013 #32

There is no rationalization of either marions ghost Apr 2013 #43

Very simplistic way of looking at it WinniSkipper Apr 2013 #44

I'm willing to believe they are different variants of insane marions ghost Apr 2013 #46

No, YOU might want to read up on psychology. PERIOD Junkpet Apr 2013 #47

My definition of sane is "not the basis for our legal system or general morality" marions ghost Apr 2013 #55

Ok. It doesn't make sense to you. I explained it, you disagree. I'm fine with that. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #8

I'm not certain 'murder is murder' is accurate.... Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #33

No difference in murderous intent marions ghost Apr 2013 #37

I wasn't comparing military people to mass murders.... Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #42

You are not a sociopath marions ghost Apr 2013 #45

Yes, I think in a broad sense we do agree... Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #56

yes marions ghost Apr 2013 #57

Oh! I had never before considered Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #58

The way I see it marions ghost Apr 2013 #59

I was thinking about just that since our last exchange... Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #61

"Lack of predictability...waiting for the spark." marions ghost Apr 2013 #62

Good! We can be scared together! Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #64

Not to mention the psychopaths we know marions ghost Apr 2013 #65

Yes indeed... Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #66

Yes marions ghost Apr 2013 #67

I don't have that smiley... Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #68

I posted this in another thread: marions ghost Apr 2013 #69

Thanks for the info... Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #70

That is one of the most disgusting bits of moral relativism I've ever read anywhere. Skidmore Apr 2013 #5

"disgusting bits of moral relativism"? What a fucking drama queen. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #6

This is rich irony... riderinthestorm Apr 2013 #11

Still pouting? Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #17

LOL. You would think that... riderinthestorm Apr 2013 #30

Wrong, slick. Skidmore Apr 2013 #13

I said precisely what I meant, and I stand by it without further explanation. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #16

Your moral relativism certainly does stand on its own merits. Skidmore Apr 2013 #18

I agree with you. Its totally different to stare at a 5 yr old child down the barrel of a gun stevenleser Apr 2013 #19

.. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #22

A bomber might be more cowardly marions ghost Apr 2013 #25

...and yet... Junkpet Apr 2013 #35

incorrect marions ghost Apr 2013 #39

incorrect... Junkpet Apr 2013 #50

you lost me at splitting hairs marions ghost Apr 2013 #54

Both objectified their victims and did not see their humanity. Skidmore Apr 2013 #26

The Boston bombers stared right into Jeff Bauman's eyes and placed the bag. riderinthestorm Apr 2013 #31

Right marions ghost Apr 2013 #40

That makes a hell of a lot of sense. HappyMe Apr 2013 #38

One has to wonder if the kid that did the Newtown avebury Apr 2013 #51

Because it's not. Terrorism has the potential to be truly catastrophic. reformist2 Apr 2013 #4

Well, I certainly would not compare it to 9/11 LeftInTX Apr 2013 #12

So stupid. Boston and 9/11 were motivated by Islamic extremism. Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #15

But it is not politically correct to say it is motivated by Muslim still_one Apr 2013 #49

Cuz there's ferriners involved who are also Muslim. Cleita Apr 2013 #20

Maybe because its not onenote Apr 2013 #24

I think it's more stillcool Apr 2013 #27

Or Columbine zipplewrath Apr 2013 #36

Its a loaded question wercal Apr 2013 #34

Strikes against innocent human beings by someone with a "cause" Lex Apr 2013 #41

Because it isn't. Boston was an attack because of hatred for Americans and their still_one Apr 2013 #48

that was BS , there is nothing to show they had issues with our foreign policy JI7 Apr 2013 #71

From all accounts, they were upset about Iraq and Afghanistan, and in the older brothers own words still_one Apr 2013 #72

I think its more like Columbine. DCBob Apr 2013 #52

Because it's not? ileus Apr 2013 #53

Oh, I dunno...maybe because it isn't? Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #60

is oklahoma city a red headed stepchild in all this? datasuspect Apr 2013 #63