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CBGLuthier

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54. I love the way everyone knows so much about other people's lives
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 04:22 PM
Apr 2013

especially people they have never met.

I do believe that parable about walking a mile in another man's shoes has finally been killed as the foolish sentiment it was all along.

what's your definition of redemption? marions ghost Apr 2013 #1
It isn't easy NoPasaran Apr 2013 #2
Jane Fonda never bruised anyone, let alone massacred and dismembered. nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #6
She did aid the N. Vietnamese war effort. AngryAmish Apr 2013 #23
It was propaganda, not murder. nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #24
Propaganda does not aid an overall war effort? AngryAmish Apr 2013 #25
First Amendment covers speech, not bombs for a reason. nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #26
There I don't understand you AngryAmish Apr 2013 #27
How did she specifically aid the NV war effort? kentuck Apr 2013 #28
She was used in NV propoganda AngryAmish Apr 2013 #29
And how did that help them? kentuck Apr 2013 #32
Are you arguing that wartime propaganda is not effective? AngryAmish Apr 2013 #34
Do you mean like? kentuck Apr 2013 #36
Propaganda is a weapon of war AngryAmish Apr 2013 #43
Then we have to ask, was it a "just" war? kentuck Apr 2013 #45
It was just a continuation of the war that has been going on for a few thousand years AngryAmish Apr 2013 #48
But many in America did not think it was a just war... kentuck Apr 2013 #52
that was all jane fonda's fault. if not for her corrupting youth, the US would have won. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #76
You do realize the US was incidental in this war? AngryAmish Apr 2013 #81
Good responses all the way timdog44 Apr 2013 #35
She wasn't arrested leftynyc Apr 2013 #44
They used her picture. tblue Apr 2013 #79
Apparently she's a fundi now ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2013 #41
Barbarella a fundie? NoPasaran Apr 2013 #46
Ted claimed she got very religious midway thru their marriage ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2013 #47
I love the way everyone knows so much about other people's lives CBGLuthier Apr 2013 #54
I'm just reporting what was reported by the women's husband ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2013 #71
Not a fundy -- Hell Hath No Fury Apr 2013 #65
ask Shrub. He seems to be doing fine with his crimes. librechik Apr 2013 #3
Yes Duer 157099 Apr 2013 #4
It's MHO too. tblue Apr 2013 #80
To society, no. Religious people can come up with their own standards, geek tragedy Apr 2013 #5
depends on who is doing the redeeming... snooper2 Apr 2013 #7
I don't go to church anymore, Blue_In_AK Apr 2013 #8
Yes, especially if the heinous acts were committed Warpy Apr 2013 #9
Depends on what you mean Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #10
Society allows for redemption. There are hundreds of people who were sinkingfeeling Apr 2013 #11
In the Roman Catholic faith, yes... DonViejo Apr 2013 #12
I think the entire concept of redemption was devised Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #13
+1 Tom Ripley Apr 2013 #19
+2! n/t backscatter712 Apr 2013 #49
Constantine is said to have converted to Christianity after murdering his son and wife REP Apr 2013 #53
Exactly.... Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #70
Only with God, okay? I've given this some thought over the years Hekate Apr 2013 #14
Excellent post get the red out Apr 2013 #39
I would agree. kentuck Apr 2013 #42
I just don't hold redemption Tien1985 Apr 2013 #15
NO oldhippie Apr 2013 #16
mein furher if you confess your sins all is forgiven and you will go to heaven despite your "sins" n msongs Apr 2013 #17
That's really not how it works. Speaking words of confession would not be enough... yawnmaster Apr 2013 #63
Reading the back of cereal box may not actually give you the breadth of information you presume it d LanternWaste Apr 2013 #69
I don't know. Seems to me an essential part of "redemption" is paying the price for what you did. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #18
It is my understanding that many Christians believe in a "born again of the spirit" experience, Zorra Apr 2013 #20
Ask Michael Vick NeoConsSuck Apr 2013 #21
I have to say No. marions ghost Apr 2013 #22
There is such a thing as forgiveness undeterred Apr 2013 #30
the New Testament doctrine is "grace" grasswire Apr 2013 #31
I'll vote for redemption under the following conditions: defacto7 Apr 2013 #33
+100 n/t Tx4obama Apr 2013 #72
We aren't the victims so it isn't up to us. cbdo2007 Apr 2013 #37
Redemption? I can't see how I could answer that. MineralMan Apr 2013 #38
I don't know - think about "child soldiers". Some of them get out of that situation and haele Apr 2013 #40
No amount of good works could ever undo such mindless cruelty REP Apr 2013 #50
What type of redemption? quakerboy Apr 2013 #51
Anything is possible. liberalmuse Apr 2013 #55
To get redemption from whom? hughee99 Apr 2013 #56
Bill Ayers became a professor in the College of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #57
Bill Ayers did not kill or physically hurt anyone. n/t Tx4obama Apr 2013 #73
setting off bombs multiple times certainly could have Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #75
But... Tx4obama Apr 2013 #94
Yes. Of course. KittyWampus Apr 2013 #58
I think those responsible should bear full responsibility for their actions Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #59
I'm not a christian, but I do believe in redemption mythology Apr 2013 #60
Good deeds? Doing your cellmate's laundry? MrSlayer Apr 2013 #61
As a Universalist, I would say it's not only possible but it will happen Recursion Apr 2013 #62
Good deeds alone, not enough, but it would require true repentance... yawnmaster Apr 2013 #64
Sure: Become an organ donor and then kill yourself. cliffordu Apr 2013 #66
Maybe In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #87
Redemption is always possible etherealtruth Apr 2013 #67
I'll bet everyone on this thread tears up when Red meets Andy Dufresne on the beach alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #68
Get busy living, or get busy dying davidpdx Apr 2013 #83
Ugly? marions ghost Apr 2013 #84
That's your opinion alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #86
I'm talking about biology marions ghost Apr 2013 #90
I understand that people who hold that view like to think it is scientifically grounded alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #91
I honestly don't understand what your beliefs are grounded in marions ghost Apr 2013 #92
NO- NEVER!!! nt 4 t 4 Apr 2013 #74
in a case like the Boston Bombing i think it would depend on the Victims JI7 Apr 2013 #77
Its always possible LostOne4Ever Apr 2013 #78
Is it possible to get redemption at all? JVS Apr 2013 #82
I think it is possible, depending on the severity of the crime and what actions the person takes davidpdx Apr 2013 #85
I think so, I also believe in the possibility of rehabilitation. TheKentuckian Apr 2013 #88
"Redemption Song" by Bob Marley panader0 Apr 2013 #89
I think Uncle Ruslan got it right. He needs to beg for forgiveness from Cleita Apr 2013 #93
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