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So, what would you have done differently in Boston [View all] Raven Apr 2013 OP

plenty usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #1

so...how many officers would you have deployed? Exactly what would you have done? Raven Apr 2013 #4

much much less, for a lone, wounded 19yo with no military training usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #10

No, you didn't. "Like the UK" is nothing concrete. randome Apr 2013 #19

are you kidding? They dealt with many bombings and NEVER shut down a whole city AND usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #29

You still seem to be saying what NOT to do instead of how to better handle the situation. randome Apr 2013 #35

No, I provided an example of how it was better handled, than shutting down a whole major city. usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #40

So, your concrete answer to my question is to Raven Apr 2013 #41

Whole books have been written on the subject, and it is not just some other city usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #45

The British used military patrols even when there was no immediate attack Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #81

Bloomberg Says Interpretation of Constitution Will ‘Have to Change’ After Boston Bombing usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #87

Bloomberg is a jack-ass who is exploiting an attack to force his dictates Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #89

we fucking did drills hiding under our elementary school desks during the cold war onenote Apr 2013 #88

right, but they didn't lock down the whole city, looking for one person usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #91

London never had a hot pursuit of a fleeing bomber. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #47

WRONG: pursuing a lone, wounded, teenaged terrorist, is even LESS reason to shut down an entire city usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #52

They didn't know he was alone. They didn't know how badly wounded he was. randome Apr 2013 #55

oh usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #57

Please do not attempt Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #123

A highway chase. In cars, on a highway. Not in an urban neighborhood. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #58

Nevermind usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #62

Your example was a highway chase, and you didn't even take a pass at Belfast. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #68

I was in London at a time when avebury Apr 2013 #83

If you're talking about 2005, the bombers were killed in one of the blasts. randome Apr 2013 #90

WRONG: See post #52 usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #94

Nope. This back in the 1990s. I can't avebury Apr 2013 #117

Take off and nuke the entire site from orbit Fumesucker Apr 2013 #2

+1! zappaman Apr 2013 #6

Fuckin' A neverforget Apr 2013 #7

They can bill me. Brickbat Apr 2013 #11

You can't make that kind of decision, you're just a grunt sarisataka Apr 2013 #31

that is always sound advice, FS bench scientist Apr 2013 #60

Weyland-Yutani did NOT approve this post. You have been warned. Kennah Apr 2013 #76

would of had more people walking the streets during event ThomThom Apr 2013 #3

Good point. Hindsight is 20/20. I lived at Raven Apr 2013 #8

Yes it is. Glad you are alright. ThomThom Apr 2013 #12

My understanding RantinRavin Apr 2013 #22

Lockdown rewards the next terrorist(s) customerserviceguy Apr 2013 #5

So...what would you have done other than close DD? Raven Apr 2013 #9

Did I give that impression? customerserviceguy Apr 2013 #129

They provided services to the police and the national guard and probably the FBI, too. randome Apr 2013 #14

I do trust you are being sarcastic customerserviceguy Apr 2013 #130

I 100% agree with you. The terrorists learned that...... Logical Apr 2013 #18

So....? What would you have done other than not closing the DD's? Raven Apr 2013 #26

Ah, no. You left out the part where after the bombs days past and the pursuit only Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #53

LOL, I guess you forgot many of them don't mind dying. Read some stories about it. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #61

Yeah, but that's not at all what you said, and those two sure seemed to mind. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #71

OK, you are right. Terrorists never plan on dying or getting caught. My bad. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #73

actually what they learned was onenote Apr 2013 #64

Wow, almost like terrorists who plan on dying. Good point. Except these idiots also..... Logical Apr 2013 #65

I don't particularly have one. Still trying to figure out yours. onenote Apr 2013 #85

No, one person shutting down a major US city for a day is silly no matter the age. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #92

Yet you constantly refer to his age in your posts as if it matters some how onenote Apr 2013 #96

"It was only after the all clear signal..." thucythucy Apr 2013 #72

I still think that discovering the suspect was more luck than skill customerserviceguy Apr 2013 #131

Nothing says "Terrorists Win!" like shutting down a whole city for a missing 19 year old. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #13

What would you have done? Raven Apr 2013 #17

Not shut down the city for ONE missing suspect n-t Logical Apr 2013 #21

Good, and then what? Raven Apr 2013 #27

Everything else they did was fine with me. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #30

Then the terrorists win every time snow is predicted in Raleigh NC. JoePhilly Apr 2013 #69

Are you calling Mother Nature a terrorist? Renew Deal Apr 2013 #103

Depends ... JoePhilly Apr 2013 #124

"Missing 19 year old" treestar Apr 2013 #95

Yes, "Missing", "On the loose", "Escaped", Etc. Like the DC Snipers or escaped prisoners. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #98

And still no one can answer your question. Strange. randome Apr 2013 #15

see very first post: did they shut london down during the IRA bombings? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #16

London is a much larger city. 609 square miles compared to Boston's 89. randome Apr 2013 #23

London is just one example, there are many many more, shutting down a MAJOR U.S. for 1 wounded teen usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #37

They also had reason to suspect collaborators. randome Apr 2013 #49

look, the fact is, this is UNPRECEDENTED, and DANGEROUS usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #56

These same points have been made over and over. randome Apr 2013 #66

Good, I am glad to hear that! usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #70

"Why do you want to shut down the discussion/debate?" HiPointDem Apr 2013 #106

I was there in London once when the IRA set off a bomb near Harrods Dept. Store treestar Apr 2013 #93

while the smaller size makes it easier gejohnston Apr 2013 #125

No, apparently they didn't. So your suggestion is Raven Apr 2013 #24

don't try to recreate the conditions the Palestinians unfortunately have to live under in the U.S. usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #33

Not sure I understand your post. Please explain. Raven Apr 2013 #34

My point is simple, lets not get hysterical over a lone, wounded, teen terrorist. usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #42

The word is 'martial' law not 'marshall'. There was not martial law in Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #75

There was never a pursuit of an escapcing bomber in London. Did Boston shut down the day Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #63

see post #52 usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #67

Your example is of a highway chase far away from London, on highways. A car chase. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #74

Yes, strange indeed, but I'm waiting for some answers. Raven Apr 2013 #20

actually i'm barely 1/4 through the thread and i've seen several answers. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #105

I have read at least two answers, and I haven't finished reading the thread. nt ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #126

I'm a bit puzzled why the entire city of Boston was given the shelter-in-place Gormy Cuss Apr 2013 #25

I'm sure many people would normally travel INTO the shelter-in-place area. Perhaps that's why. randome Apr 2013 #28

Not talking about them. There are many who travel wholly outside of the area. Gormy Cuss Apr 2013 #43

Yeah, I hear you. randome Apr 2013 #54

Fair questions. I'm not sure what the logic was on the sip order and Raven Apr 2013 #32

Track him with more typical police methods wercal Apr 2013 #36

Thank you...the first concrete list of suggested alternatives... Raven Apr 2013 #39

these procedures are not new, and have been routinely followed during many simular events usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #46

Not a damn thing. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2013 #38

It seems that during the shootout sarisataka Apr 2013 #44

Shut the media off, do not allow them to be right there following it breathlessly 24 hr/day uppityperson Apr 2013 #48

WOW! Seriously? Progressive forum...indeed! eom Purveyor Apr 2013 #77

I would like news to actually cover news, not breathless speculation. If that makes me uppityperson Apr 2013 #78

In 'my eyes' you are. Practice your 'goosestep' but I hear is it hell on your back. eom Purveyor Apr 2013 #79

Ever see the made for tv movie Special Bulletin? I highly recommend it. uppityperson Apr 2013 #80

I don't watch 'tv' movies but the fact that you do explains much... I'm finished with this thread. Purveyor Apr 2013 #82

OMG, assume much? I walked in on friends watching it back in 1980's. It is about how media uppityperson Apr 2013 #86

Good memory you have, indeed. Have a bridge to sell too? eom Purveyor Apr 2013 #99

It was quite the movie and greatly impressing. Too bad you are more concerned with snarking than uppityperson Apr 2013 #122

You know what? That's actually a concrete suggestion, and an excellent one Hekate Apr 2013 #119

Exactly. uppityperson Apr 2013 #121

Made the perimeter a little bigger, he was actually hiding OUTSIDE THE SEARCH AREA... winstars Apr 2013 #50

kept calm datasuspect Apr 2013 #51

They got lucky in Boston Warpy Apr 2013 #59

The cell phone was huge Renew Deal Apr 2013 #109

As a detective once put it nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #118

I'm always interested pipi_k Apr 2013 #84

The one thing they won't say -- Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #97

"Oh yeah, it's all good looking back." ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #127

I'm just glad they got the guy BEFORE Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #128

The keyboard warriors of the Chairborne 360 are out strong today/tonight. flvegan Apr 2013 #100

Advocated for free donuts, coffee, and pizza for the cops. Zorra Apr 2013 #101

So you were the reason I was stuck listening to local nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #116

Well, see, I'm not one much for doing anything, but I will complain about the ones who are. TheManInTheMac Apr 2013 #102

Thanks for asking that, Raven. I have not seen a good answer yet, so will peruse this thread eagerly Hekate Apr 2013 #104

I think they did the best they could, and some things could have been done differently. Renew Deal Apr 2013 #107

I would have marched the entire population of Boston into the Commons in threes, rug Apr 2013 #108

please usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #110

Welcome to DU. rug Apr 2013 #111

thank you, rug usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #115

Me? Knightraven Apr 2013 #112

"Hide till the police said it was clear." Yeah, you would have. Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #132

I am sure thy are asking this question nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #113

We don't exactly know all the details Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2013 #114

We don't know that they did kill him. It may have been suicide by cop, but also his bro ran over him Hekate Apr 2013 #120