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Nye Bevan

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33. Complete and utter stupidity.

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Mon Feb 6, 2012, 12:45 PM

Feb 2012

More contraception = fewer abortions. And doesn't the Catholic Church *want* fewer abortions?

Dumb, dumb, dumb.

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Why so upset over Birth Control Coverage, Catholic Church? [View all] HockeyMom Feb 2012 OP

They want to tell the government what to do with (their???) tax dollars, but zbdent Feb 2012 #1

Um...not quite.... liberal_biker Feb 2012 #3

the fact that churches don't pay taxes is why I put "their" in (their???) as I did ... zbdent Feb 2012 #9

why should a church get to pick and choose KatyMan Feb 2012 #11

That pesky little first amendment to the Constitution joeglow3 Feb 2012 #14

What does that have to do with it? KatyMan Feb 2012 #24

There is a ministerial exception Sgent Feb 2012 #30

This isn't about individual beliefs SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2012 #32

By exempting religious organizations from certain laws csziggy Feb 2012 #55

Read up joeglow3 Feb 2012 #57

Churches don't recieve federal funds Sgent Feb 2012 #31

It has to do with the government curtailing religious practices meow2u3 Feb 2012 #2

So are you saying we should be tolerant enough to tolerate intolerance? Major Nikon Feb 2012 #4

Making Catholic organizations USE birth control fifthoffive Feb 2012 #5

This is not a violation of the First Amendment..... matmar Feb 2012 #6

It does inhibit the free exercise of religion SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2012 #17

This does not force the "Church" to do anything. JoePhilly Feb 2012 #19

The Catholic church provides health insurance to employees because it's the right thing to do SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2012 #20

Is that what their choice should be?? JoePhilly Feb 2012 #21

I'll ask my friend SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2012 #27

Mark my words, in 2014 when the mandate sets in, even the Catholic Church will stop offering ins riderinthestorm Feb 2012 #22

It will still cost employers money SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2012 #28

Pfft, a paltry $2000. I read one estimate that more than 60% of companies plan on dropping health riderinthestorm Feb 2012 #39

I agree SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2012 #44

Au contraire, there's some who predict that it will lead to single payer riderinthestorm Feb 2012 #46

You're free to have that opinion SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2012 #47

They can stop taking federal funding. PassingFair Feb 2012 #26

For the umpteenth time SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2012 #29

oh BS! mysuzuki2 Feb 2012 #7

This has nothing to do with accepting federal cash SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2012 #16

There are all sorts of laws interfering with free exercise of a religion. For instance, bigamy. uppityperson Feb 2012 #48

There are laws SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2012 #49

Treat their children when they are ill (Jehovah's Witnesses) or face child abuse charges riderinthestorm Feb 2012 #51

Every example you cited SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2012 #56

So? I believe offering birth control insurance coverage is for the greater good riderinthestorm Feb 2012 #58

Great way of putting it. Puzzledtraveller Feb 2012 #12

That depends on how you define "Catholic organizations" MNBrewer Feb 2012 #18

How far are we to let religions curtail the rights of others?? Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #23

I agree, the logic of the argument makes no sense. Johonny Feb 2012 #37

You're right SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2012 #38

Or should a Jewish woman's insurance deny her coverage mmonk Feb 2012 #34

If she's working for a Catholic organization SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2012 #35

A purely religious organization isn't required to. mmonk Feb 2012 #52

Why should who they serve SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2012 #54

I think it has to do with the insurance exchange. mmonk Feb 2012 #59

If they do not want the use of birth control, then they need to provide for all the newborn babies. jillan Feb 2012 #8

Claim an unproveable fact as true. Nice strategy. joeglow3 Feb 2012 #15

They are upset because every sperm is sacred Motown_Johnny Feb 2012 #10

The requirement to provide contraception coverage hedgehog Feb 2012 #13

The ban would apply more to the teachers than the secretary HockeyMom Feb 2012 #53

If they provide Insurance, they have to follow Insurance rules. Lil Missy Feb 2012 #25

Complete and utter stupidity. Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #33

The church wants more catholics Johonny Feb 2012 #36

that might make sense logically, unless you look at what the anti-choice Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #41

because GOD DOESN'T WANT YOU FUCKING FOR FUN!!!! Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #40

I disagree. I don't think it's accidental that it feels so good! 11 Bravo Feb 2012 #42

neither do I. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #43

This is why I have a card in my wallet that states I am NEVER to be Dawson Leery Feb 2012 #45

This is a question of control, not morality. Can the church control what is available to you lindysalsagal Feb 2012 #50