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51. The problem is most don't care

Wed Apr 24, 2013, 07:10 AM

Apr 2013

We're a city that went 91% for Obama, and just had an election where a progressive candidate that refused to take any money lost to the corrupt party machine candidate, 28% to 32%. But with only 10% of the registered voters voting. So that means 2.8% to 3.2%. We couldn't get 4% of progressives, in a progressive city, to turn out for a progressive candidate.

Matthew Yglesias encouraged people to vote in this election...for a Republican that signed Norquist's pledge and is in favor of corporations - even ones contracted with the city - donating to politicians. And this is a guy many consider an important figure on the left.

People don't vote, don't organize, and they pay attention to fairly horrible bloggers/talking heads. That's the problem.

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The GOP Has So "F'ed" Everything Up In This Country It Seems Almost Hopeless [View all] TheMastersNemesis Apr 2013 OP

K&R deutsey Apr 2013 #1

They certainly didn't do it alone. MindPilot Apr 2013 #2

+1 LWolf Apr 2013 #5

^This. What happened to the real Democrats? nt silvershadow Apr 2013 #21

+1, n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #28

+1 Bully Taw Apr 2013 #34

Noam Chomsky - Clinton's Vision - December 1, 1993 (free trade, NAFTA) antigop Apr 2013 #61

The Democrats Allowed Themselves To Be Pushed To The Right By NOT Fighting Hard Enough. TheMastersNemesis Apr 2013 #3

If only it were that simple. Laelth Apr 2013 #56

It is already over for us Newest Reality Apr 2013 #4

Whores who have an insatiable love of money have fucked things up. nt valerief Apr 2013 #6

Reagan was the biggest pox on this nations history liberal N proud Apr 2013 #7

Right on! Soundman Apr 2013 #10

Welcome to DU, Soundman! calimary Apr 2013 #32

Direct... the hammer... elsewhere. We need your vote. nightscanner59 Apr 2013 #38

But, being good little Democrats, we'll just sit back and allow them their free speech. Atman Apr 2013 #8

You left out the environment. Half of American rivers mountain grammy Apr 2013 #9

Where're living in our own trash and pulling the lid over the garbage can! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #29

There will be a Tidal Shift at some point. AAO Apr 2013 #11

The problem is the money. Orsino Apr 2013 #12

Far from it nxylas Apr 2013 #14

The problem is most don't care Chathamization Apr 2013 #51

Also, the obscene military and quasi-military (cops). xtraxritical Apr 2013 #13

Don't let the terrorists win! nolabear Apr 2013 #15

^^^This is where the ones who care will be^^^ freshwest Apr 2013 #23

I read your post just in the nick of time. thank you!!!!!!!!! secondwind Apr 2013 #50

Vietnam Screwed Everything Up DallasNE Apr 2013 #16

It will end in fascism... WCGreen Apr 2013 #17

Or some religious dystopia. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #30

1980 Zeitgeist demanded a change ErikJ Apr 2013 #18

Just when I think the GOP cannot get any more extremist....they do. KauaiK Apr 2013 #19

unfortunately, there's no opposition party to counter the goppers. KG Apr 2013 #20

Reply To My Own Post TheMastersNemesis Apr 2013 #22

You Have No Reason To Apologize - Your Thoughts Are Shared By Many cantbeserious Apr 2013 #24

Agree marions ghost Apr 2013 #26

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2013 #25

It's no longer a question of "if" it will collapse, but when. Some articles I've read indicate RKP5637 Apr 2013 #27

I agree. It would be better if the financial industry collapsed. Laelth Apr 2013 #58

DEM "leadership" bears a serious indictment in all this. blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #31

I'm with you; I always put quotation marks around Democratic "leadership". abq e streeter Apr 2013 #37

where it will end: 0rganism Apr 2013 #33

Oh, it can keep going that way, and it probably will. harmonicon Apr 2013 #35

I continue to cling, however foolishly, to the slim glimmer of hope for the future Kennah Apr 2013 #36

Despise adding the worst here but... nightscanner59 Apr 2013 #39

"And I wonder where it will end"... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #40

does anybody wonder? Chaco Dundee Apr 2013 #41

Unfortunately they got a lot of help from the corporate Dems. diane in sf Apr 2013 #42

It Can Get Better... DAngelo136 Apr 2013 #43

Hopeful post. Thanks. erinlough Apr 2013 #53

As the late, great Molly Ivins was fond of saying, on the other hand ... Laelth Apr 2013 #60

Do It For Your Own Integrity and Self Worth School Teacher Apr 2013 #44

Welcome to DU. Laelth Apr 2013 #59

Once the next civil war occurs, without a Lincoln, it will end. Kablooie Apr 2013 #45

I don't think your prediction will come to pass. The U.S. population is to heterogeneous to allow ladjf Apr 2013 #57

Each new country will then have its own civil war due to population differences. Kablooie Apr 2013 #63

The MastersNemesis Hoops59 Apr 2013 #46

It's darkest before the dawn. For the first time in a generation, the majority have figured it out. reformist2 Apr 2013 #47

The first time I read your thread title, I saw it as Heywood J Apr 2013 #48

Feudalism lives thanks to poor men who wield guns to protect very, very rich men. nt valerief Apr 2013 #49

It will end only when we get a real Democratic party vi5 Apr 2013 #52

The GOP has held power for the last 30 years? Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #54

True, but they had a lot of help from Democrats. n/t Laelth Apr 2013 #55

Politicians SamKnause Apr 2013 #62