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CTyankee

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14. Isn't it amazing? They do this and then expect us to believe them when they say they

Reply to upaloopa (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 24, 2013, 08:22 AM

Apr 2013

they don't agree with the NRA and they want to prevent gun violence, yadda, yadda. I've had to PRY it out of them when I ask them flatly "OK, tell me YOUR plan." You'd think they'd be clamoring to get their gun safety ideas out there and building support among other "law abiding gun owners." Instead, look at what we get...

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Breaking: when you ignore countries with low gun ownership rate and high homicide rate. .. [View all] Recursion Apr 2013 OP

Which country do you have in mind ? dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #1

I think you are trying to make a point here el_bryanto Apr 2013 #2

Brazil, Mexico, Russia (nt) Recursion Apr 2013 #7

Yes but those countries have pretty different cultures, don't they? el_bryanto Apr 2013 #10

Those things also pipoman Apr 2013 #16

We are not more violent that European nations. DanTex Apr 2013 #28

The US isn't exactly a Western European social-democracy either. JVS Apr 2013 #25

Because they are the closest thing we have to peers. DanTex Apr 2013 #31

But, seriously, have you even tried a regression against access to mental health care? Recursion Apr 2013 #36

Or even examining where violence happens and seeing if the material and social conditions there.... JVS Apr 2013 #37

can you identify one of those countries, please? lastlib Apr 2013 #3

Yes, give me ten minutes Recursion Apr 2013 #9

See below. Also South Africa Recursion Apr 2013 #23

Low firearm ownership doesn't mean guns aren't readily available everywhere illegally. JaneyVee Apr 2013 #4

That's also true here Recursion Apr 2013 #21

name the countries. cali Apr 2013 #5

Brazil, Russia, Mexico, China, India, Indonesia. (nt) Recursion Apr 2013 #18

Don't forget Turkey, Mexico, Argentina, and South Africa! DanTex Apr 2013 #32

Can we agree no criminologist knows what to do with South Africa? (nt) Recursion Apr 2013 #34

South Africa ranks 121st in HDI, below Honduras and Egypt and Botswana. DanTex Apr 2013 #35

Because i would guess that this edhopper Apr 2013 #6

Is this a new low? Take some African country upaloopa Apr 2013 #8

Isn't it amazing? They do this and then expect us to believe them when they say they CTyankee Apr 2013 #14

"nobody" really isn't accurate... pipoman Apr 2013 #20

Nobody with any power to do so wants to take your guns away. upaloopa Apr 2013 #29

It's beyond absurd. DanTex Apr 2013 #30

Gun pimps are boring. morningfog Apr 2013 #11

Aw. Robb Apr 2013 #12

Broken ... GeorgeGist Apr 2013 #13

When you try to compare the US to Russia, Brazil, and Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, and China DanTex Apr 2013 #15

And the reason we shouldn't is...? Recursion Apr 2013 #17

Because they aren't stable first-world countries. Are you serious? DanTex Apr 2013 #26

So here's the thing: you say "Recursion includes Brazil, Mexico, Russia, and India. That's absurd!" Recursion Apr 2013 #24

Where we go from here is we use do an apples-to-apples comparison between DanTex Apr 2013 #27

background checks for all gun ownership...PERIOD spanone Apr 2013 #19

I agree with you on that. Recursion Apr 2013 #22

Were Dagestan and Chechnya included in your figures, Recursion? rdharma Apr 2013 #33

"...when you ignore countries with low gun ownership rate and high homicide rate".... Sheepshank Apr 2013 #38