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Alva Goldbook

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Wed Apr 24, 2013, 11:51 AM Apr 2013

2014 Will Be A VERY Bad Year For The Democrats. [View all]

Don't get me wrong. I'm not happy to report this. If the GOP crazies in the House are any indication, we're gong to be looking at tough times ahead. But the reality is that after some careful analysis, I believe that the GOP will take control of the Senate in 2014.

Here is why: No other issue has historically brought Republican voters to the polls like gun control. I gotta think that after Bush, many Republicans stayed home, being demoralized by the mess Bush left in his wake. How many stayed home, I don't know. I also suspect that not many Republicans were inspired to go to the polls voting for a guy like Romney.

Additionally, we have to realize that Obama is one hell of a fine campaigner. His team revolutionized how elections are done. But we saw in 2010, when that team wasn't in place, the Democrats suffered major losses.

This is why I think it was a massive strategic blunder for Dems in the Senate to push gun control. With the GOP controlling the House, it was impossible to get any gun control legislation passed. And while many care about gun control, priority polling has found that only 4% of voters believe that gun control is the most important issue. There may be 90% support for gun control, but it is weak support. On the flip side of the coin, the pro-gun folks are very dedicated to that issue.

I should note that Senators serve 6 year terms, and only one-third of the Senate is up for election every 2 years. This means that if there is a major shift in power in the Senate in one election year, than 6 years later, another major shift can happen. 6 years before 2014 was the 2008 election, where Democrats in the Senate won a two-thirds majority.

Given all this, we need to look at how the Senate elections will break down. We need to ask ourselves three questions.

1) How many Republicans and Democratic Senators are retiring, and what states are they from?
2) How many Republican incumbents will be defending their Senate seats in blue states?
3) How many Democratic incumbents will be defending their Senate seats in red states?

Let's take a look: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_elections,_2014

On the Republican side, only 2 Republicans will be retiring, in Kansas and Georgia. Both states are solidly red. These open seats will likely stay red. Every other Republican incumbent will be defending their seats from very red states, with the sole exception of Susan Collins of Maine.

And here is where things get bad. On the Democratic side, Democrats will be retiring in Montana, South Dakota, Iowa, Michigan, West Virginia, and New Jersey. These will be open seats, so no one will have an incumbent advantage.

Democrats will be defending their Senate seats in Colorado, New Mexico, Wisconsin, Arkansas, Louisiana, North Carolina, and Virginia.

Democrats will be defending other seats as well, but these are solidly blue states, which I doubt will flip.

What this means, however, is that there is very little chance that the GOP will lose very many Senate seats in 2014. However, Democrats could lose as many as 10 Senate seats. Republicans only need to pick up 4 seats to retake the Senate.

This is why I say that pushing gun control in the Senate was a very bad idea. It had zero chance of passing the House, and it would create a ton of risk for Democrats. A ton of risk and zero payoff is a bad gamble to make in politics. And if you think the GOP crazies in the House are bad now, imagine what they'll be like without a Democratic Senate to block their insanity.

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gosh, sounds just like what they said in 2008. still_one Apr 2013 #1
heh bigtree Apr 2013 #2
". . . snowed in Minnesota last week." Jenoch Apr 2013 #39
I was listening to Mr. Keillor this weekend bigtree Apr 2013 #40
We have received 19" of snow this April Jenoch Apr 2013 #42
that's just messed up bigtree Apr 2013 #45
Maybe you are not wrong. LiberalAndProud Apr 2013 #3
I love people who have crystal balls RockaFowler Apr 2013 #4
It's magic! Floyd_Gondolli Apr 2013 #5
in your dreams spanone Apr 2013 #6
I'm sure you are hoping for it. Pisces Apr 2013 #7
+++ Champion Jack Apr 2013 #8
C'mon he said he's not happy about reporting it!!!!111 tridim Apr 2013 #12
so it's gun politics that turns out republicans? not abortion? taxes? gay marriage? flag-burning? unblock Apr 2013 #9
Oh my! HappyMe Apr 2013 #10
I'm not the only one who has noticed this. Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #11
Thanks for the link. A great breakdown of where we stand at this time. nt Mojorabbit Apr 2013 #86
well that cat is already out of the bag hfojvt Apr 2013 #13
let me clear that up. Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #19
Does anyone else smell troll dung? MjolnirTime Apr 2013 #14
no, not really...op's been here since 2005 but could just be a pessimist Demonaut Apr 2013 #17
Length of time here has nothing to do with it. HappyMe Apr 2013 #18
in my opinion they would have tripped up long before now Demonaut Apr 2013 #22
with 50+ posts? hardly. Sheepshank Apr 2013 #58
true...could be Demonaut Apr 2013 #75
yes BainsBane Apr 2013 #60
Only around your post, I'm afraid. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #66
I tend to disagree Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2013 #15
2010 was their year to express their shock over Obama and Obamacare. They're worn out now. reformist2 Apr 2013 #16
They shouldn't have been shocked. Romney was a horrible candidate. Obama was an amazing candidate. Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #23
Damn. Let's not have Democrats push anything progressive...WTF kind of thinking is that? mnhtnbb Apr 2013 #20
Yes, push for progressive causes, but why push for something that you can't win? Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #27
Concern noted. n/t backscatter712 Apr 2013 #21
Gun Enthusiast Wishful Thinking. (nt) Paladin Apr 2013 #24
Yeah, you're right. I won't even try. JNelson6563 Apr 2013 #25
He who lives by the crystal ball ends up eating broken glass. DinahMoeHum Apr 2013 #26
Good one! LongTomH Apr 2013 #54
Sounds like a great way to start as a member of a site dedicated to supporting Democrats liberal N proud Apr 2013 #28
Poster has been here since 2005, but I do not agree with everything in the OP either. John1956PA Apr 2013 #34
some plans are seeded with the long term in mind. Sheepshank Apr 2013 #57
I'm with you. eom BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #76
Worst case scenario is Obama's veto pen gets a workout. Rochester Apr 2013 #29
Due to Gerrymandering, it will be very difficult to retake the House. Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #46
oh the pain wet.hen88 Apr 2013 #93
Uh, yeah...we're not losing the Senate. Chan790 Apr 2013 #30
Chan, I haven't looked at any of the actual Senate races. Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #47
FWIW... zeeland Apr 2013 #31
I am not pro gun. Savannahmann Apr 2013 #32
Gun control will be for us like abortion is for the GOP Recursion Apr 2013 #73
Gallop Poll? I don't make a move without my Gallop poll! nt Walk away Apr 2013 #80
I think that facts are good things to have. Savannahmann Apr 2013 #92
Americans respect politicians who have principles, even if they dont agree BlueStreak Apr 2013 #33
That is precisely it. laundry_queen Apr 2013 #50
People keep saying that but the voters keep not acting like that Recursion Apr 2013 #74
It was predicted Dems would lose the Senate in 2012. AtomicKitten Apr 2013 #35
Jesus rode dinosaurs too! whttevrr Apr 2013 #36
A great many voters in the United States rrneck Apr 2013 #37
God, chill out. Zoeisright Apr 2013 #38
Doooooooooooooom! (thisisarecording.) (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2013 #41
WI? Not in 2014. Viking12 Apr 2013 #43
My bad. I think I got mixed up with Minnesota. (end) Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #48
Minnesota is pretty safe for Dems Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #85
So why have Sen. Ayotte's numbers dropped 15 pts. since voting against background checks? frazzled Apr 2013 #44
Look at Gov. Cuomo's numbers. They've dropped too. Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #49
After dropping, they're still at 59% approval frazzled Apr 2013 #52
Thank you N Hampshire marions ghost Apr 2013 #64
Thanks for your concern. How many friggin guns do you have? Hoyt Apr 2013 #51
I have three. Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #67
Not really, no matter what Obama does it will not compare Rex Apr 2013 #53
When a majority of fecking NRA members want background checks? Bullshit. eridani Apr 2013 #55
Yeah right. Republicans can't seem to stop saying stupid shyte. bravenak Apr 2013 #56
I see, so "pushing gun control" is a bad idea louis-t Apr 2013 #59
not if you make the NRA the ALBATROSS it is. wave the bloody backpack! pansypoo53219 Apr 2013 #61
You're probably right but not because of gun control tularetom Apr 2013 #62
Thanks for stopping in, Mr. Hannity. RagAss Apr 2013 #63
Concern Troll Alert........ yellowcanine Apr 2013 #65
I'm concerned, but I ain't a concern troll. Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #70
Thank you for your concern. It will be carefully considered. JPZenger Apr 2013 #68
I don't vote for NRA stooges who don't support gun control. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #69
The Republicans voting against background checks will be used against them, big time. Ikonoklast Apr 2013 #71
Cool story, bro Recursion Apr 2013 #72
The moderate right wants gun control ecstatic Apr 2013 #77
Still plenty of time for the GOP to screw up... again... (nt) Jon Ace Apr 2013 #78
as above your concern is noted oldhippydude Apr 2013 #79
stop being so negative! BootinUp Apr 2013 #81
Baloney. If anything will hurt Democrats, it's Obama's debacle on Social Security. n/t duffyduff Apr 2013 #82
Ayotte approval dropped 15 points after pro gun vote Progressive dog Apr 2013 #83
All those extra people that came out to specifically vote for Obama won't be there. MrSlayer Apr 2013 #84
The vote on background checks will hurt the rethugs badly mwrguy Apr 2013 #87
Making a prediction like this is a VERY bad idea cali Apr 2013 #88
THE SKY IS FALLING !!!!!!!! H2O Man Apr 2013 #89
I think 2014 will be a disaster for the GOP jmowreader Apr 2013 #90
it really is this simple - 20 dead kids quaker bill Apr 2013 #91
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