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Proud Liberal Dem

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15. I tend to disagree

Wed Apr 24, 2013, 12:14 PM

Apr 2013

I think that the political risk of opposing any and all forms of gun control has gotten bigger, particularly in the wake of Newtown. Toomey-Manchin was a genuine bipartisan effort that, while not going as far as most of us would like, still represented a sensible approach to reducing the ability of people whom might have a tendency to use guns unlawfully to get them. It's the NRA and its supporters whom are increasingly on the wrong side of this issue and looking "out of touch" IMHO.

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2014 Will Be A VERY Bad Year For The Democrats. [View all] Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 OP

gosh, sounds just like what they said in 2008. still_one Apr 2013 #1

heh bigtree Apr 2013 #2

". . . snowed in Minnesota last week." Jenoch Apr 2013 #39

I was listening to Mr. Keillor this weekend bigtree Apr 2013 #40

We have received 19" of snow this April Jenoch Apr 2013 #42

that's just messed up bigtree Apr 2013 #45

Maybe you are not wrong. LiberalAndProud Apr 2013 #3

I love people who have crystal balls RockaFowler Apr 2013 #4

It's magic! Floyd_Gondolli Apr 2013 #5

in your dreams spanone Apr 2013 #6

I'm sure you are hoping for it. Pisces Apr 2013 #7

+++ Champion Jack Apr 2013 #8

C'mon he said he's not happy about reporting it!!!!111 tridim Apr 2013 #12

so it's gun politics that turns out republicans? not abortion? taxes? gay marriage? flag-burning? unblock Apr 2013 #9

Oh my! HappyMe Apr 2013 #10

I'm not the only one who has noticed this. Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #11

Thanks for the link. A great breakdown of where we stand at this time. nt Mojorabbit Apr 2013 #86

well that cat is already out of the bag hfojvt Apr 2013 #13

let me clear that up. Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #19

Does anyone else smell troll dung? MjolnirTime Apr 2013 #14

no, not really...op's been here since 2005 but could just be a pessimist Demonaut Apr 2013 #17

Length of time here has nothing to do with it. HappyMe Apr 2013 #18

in my opinion they would have tripped up long before now Demonaut Apr 2013 #22

with 50+ posts? hardly. Sheepshank Apr 2013 #58

true...could be Demonaut Apr 2013 #75

yes BainsBane Apr 2013 #60

Only around your post, I'm afraid. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #66

I tend to disagree Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2013 #15

2010 was their year to express their shock over Obama and Obamacare. They're worn out now. reformist2 Apr 2013 #16

They shouldn't have been shocked. Romney was a horrible candidate. Obama was an amazing candidate. Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #23

Damn. Let's not have Democrats push anything progressive...WTF kind of thinking is that? mnhtnbb Apr 2013 #20

Yes, push for progressive causes, but why push for something that you can't win? Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #27

Concern noted. n/t backscatter712 Apr 2013 #21

Gun Enthusiast Wishful Thinking. (nt) Paladin Apr 2013 #24

Yeah, you're right. I won't even try. JNelson6563 Apr 2013 #25

He who lives by the crystal ball ends up eating broken glass. DinahMoeHum Apr 2013 #26

Good one! LongTomH Apr 2013 #54

Sounds like a great way to start as a member of a site dedicated to supporting Democrats liberal N proud Apr 2013 #28

Poster has been here since 2005, but I do not agree with everything in the OP either. John1956PA Apr 2013 #34

some plans are seeded with the long term in mind. Sheepshank Apr 2013 #57

I'm with you. eom BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #76

Worst case scenario is Obama's veto pen gets a workout. Rochester Apr 2013 #29

Due to Gerrymandering, it will be very difficult to retake the House. Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #46

oh the pain wet.hen88 Apr 2013 #93

Uh, yeah...we're not losing the Senate. Chan790 Apr 2013 #30

Chan, I haven't looked at any of the actual Senate races. Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #47

FWIW... zeeland Apr 2013 #31

I am not pro gun. Savannahmann Apr 2013 #32

Gun control will be for us like abortion is for the GOP Recursion Apr 2013 #73

Gallop Poll? I don't make a move without my Gallop poll! nt Walk away Apr 2013 #80

I think that facts are good things to have. Savannahmann Apr 2013 #92

Americans respect politicians who have principles, even if they dont agree BlueStreak Apr 2013 #33

That is precisely it. laundry_queen Apr 2013 #50

People keep saying that but the voters keep not acting like that Recursion Apr 2013 #74

It was predicted Dems would lose the Senate in 2012. AtomicKitten Apr 2013 #35

Jesus rode dinosaurs too! whttevrr Apr 2013 #36

A great many voters in the United States rrneck Apr 2013 #37

God, chill out. Zoeisright Apr 2013 #38

Doooooooooooooom! (thisisarecording.) (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2013 #41

WI? Not in 2014. Viking12 Apr 2013 #43

My bad. I think I got mixed up with Minnesota. (end) Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #48

Minnesota is pretty safe for Dems Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #85

So why have Sen. Ayotte's numbers dropped 15 pts. since voting against background checks? frazzled Apr 2013 #44

Look at Gov. Cuomo's numbers. They've dropped too. Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #49

After dropping, they're still at 59% approval frazzled Apr 2013 #52

Thank you N Hampshire marions ghost Apr 2013 #64

Thanks for your concern. How many friggin guns do you have? Hoyt Apr 2013 #51

I have three. Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #67

Not really, no matter what Obama does it will not compare Rex Apr 2013 #53

When a majority of fecking NRA members want background checks? Bullshit. eridani Apr 2013 #55

Yeah right. Republicans can't seem to stop saying stupid shyte. bravenak Apr 2013 #56

I see, so "pushing gun control" is a bad idea louis-t Apr 2013 #59

not if you make the NRA the ALBATROSS it is. wave the bloody backpack! pansypoo53219 Apr 2013 #61

You're probably right but not because of gun control tularetom Apr 2013 #62

Thanks for stopping in, Mr. Hannity. RagAss Apr 2013 #63

Concern Troll Alert........ yellowcanine Apr 2013 #65

I'm concerned, but I ain't a concern troll. Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #70

Thank you for your concern. It will be carefully considered. JPZenger Apr 2013 #68

I don't vote for NRA stooges who don't support gun control. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #69

The Republicans voting against background checks will be used against them, big time. Ikonoklast Apr 2013 #71

Cool story, bro Recursion Apr 2013 #72

The moderate right wants gun control ecstatic Apr 2013 #77

Still plenty of time for the GOP to screw up... again... (nt) Jon Ace Apr 2013 #78

as above your concern is noted oldhippydude Apr 2013 #79

stop being so negative! BootinUp Apr 2013 #81

Baloney. If anything will hurt Democrats, it's Obama's debacle on Social Security. n/t duffyduff Apr 2013 #82

Ayotte approval dropped 15 points after pro gun vote Progressive dog Apr 2013 #83

All those extra people that came out to specifically vote for Obama won't be there. MrSlayer Apr 2013 #84

The vote on background checks will hurt the rethugs badly mwrguy Apr 2013 #87

Making a prediction like this is a VERY bad idea cali Apr 2013 #88

THE SKY IS FALLING !!!!!!!! H2O Man Apr 2013 #89

I think 2014 will be a disaster for the GOP jmowreader Apr 2013 #90

it really is this simple - 20 dead kids quaker bill Apr 2013 #91