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cui bono

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45. OMG, I'm so sorry about your loss. Yes, it's terribly sad.

Wed Apr 24, 2013, 09:53 PM

Apr 2013

Too bad you were so far away at the time.

It's not a myth though. You need a "break stick" or something like it to get them to open their mouth if they don't want to let go. One of my dogs did get in a fight and she would not let go of the other dog's lip. We had them both pinned down and she wouldn't let go until someone got a stick in her mouth. It's not actually a lock jaw, hence the parentheticals, but they will not let go unless forced if they don't want to.

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WV City bans pit bulls, current owners must register or dog will be removed [View all] The Straight Story Apr 2013 OP

No reason is stated why newmember Apr 2013 #1

I'd have guessed there was an issue with bad breeders or fight trainers or something Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #73

ALL dogs should be registered. SoCalDem Apr 2013 #2

So should cats. nt ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #3

Cats are not generally a threat to people, since most run away instead of attacking SoCalDem Apr 2013 #12

Cats that are allowed outside cause enviromental damage ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #14

Another reason why NO pets should run free.. SoCalDem Apr 2013 #23

i'm a cat owner. i never let DesertFlower Apr 2013 #31

I have always seen our pets as perpetual toddlers SoCalDem Apr 2013 #33

i agree. they're like our children. DesertFlower Apr 2013 #42

I have never been harmed (deliberately ) by a dog, but have been attacked by 6 cats hollysmom Apr 2013 #57

Neither are pomeranians. N/T beevul Apr 2013 #79

Either make it universal for all dogs, or for none. uppityperson Apr 2013 #4

Did anyone read the article? newmember Apr 2013 #6

I was just coming back to edit. Banning them is idiotic. BSL is wrong. uppityperson Apr 2013 #9

Most vets can tell SoCalDem Apr 2013 #16

What standards do "most vets" use to tell? And no. Even vets can't often tell. uppityperson Apr 2013 #18

Doubtful. "Pit bull" isn't even an official breed. Recursion Apr 2013 #67

Just a guess but they will go with what a Vet states as breed type. newmember Apr 2013 #22

So there will be no standards, just a subjective ruling by a vet? uppityperson Apr 2013 #24

No it doesn't newmember Apr 2013 #27

I support the ALL dogs plan SoCalDem Apr 2013 #8

And I was agreeing. If dogs must be registered, register them all. Agreeing with you. uppityperson Apr 2013 #10

Perhaps the populace elected the "wrong" people..elections have consequences SoCalDem Apr 2013 #13

It's not just a reg it's a Ban newmember Apr 2013 #5

the ban is for NEW ones. the ones already here are grandfathered in SoCalDem Apr 2013 #7

How will they determine if a dog is a pit? uppityperson Apr 2013 #11

Band together and demand a DNA test .... SoCalDem Apr 2013 #26

There's not a genetic definition of "pit bull". Recursion Apr 2013 #68

I love all dogs newmember Apr 2013 #17

Once you go pitty.... cui bono Apr 2013 #20

+1000! dorkzilla Apr 2013 #36

Yes, and rather than ban a breed they should ban bad owners! cui bono Apr 2013 #15

It's so sad to lose our pets SoCalDem Apr 2013 #21

Aw, thanks. Yeah, back in the day they bred them specifically to not be human aggressive, cui bono Apr 2013 #30

The pits "locking jaw" is a myth dorkzilla Apr 2013 #39

OMG, I'm so sorry about your loss. Yes, it's terribly sad. cui bono Apr 2013 #45

Want and can't are different of course, hence the myth. dorkzilla Apr 2013 #48

great pics. sorry for your loss. DesertFlower Apr 2013 #32

Oh, thank you. It's actually been a while now but I still haven't gotten other dogs. cui bono Apr 2013 #34

i agree. nt DesertFlower Apr 2013 #29

Different type of registering. Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #38

In 1997 our home owners insurance went up..why? SoCalDem Apr 2013 #40

In the case of this type, the insurance is for the bread alone. Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #44

so now only outlaws will have unregistered pit bulls? 0rganism Apr 2013 #19

Only rapidly repitting dogs? uppityperson Apr 2013 #25

stop the assault dog ban! 0rganism Apr 2013 #28

It actually is a lot like an assault weapons ban: supporters don't know what it actually bans Recursion Apr 2013 #69

The obvious comparison is to AR-15s... ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #35

"Assault dogs" krispos42 Apr 2013 #50

30 people killed by dogs each year vs. 30,000 people killed by guns. baldguy Apr 2013 #59

The legislate thinking is exactly the same ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #62

Do you forget so quickly? baldguy Apr 2013 #86

I'm buying a pit pull, getting him a CCW and then taking him to Olive Garden for a 44 oz. soda. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #37

do you plan on feeding him chicken? SoCalDem Apr 2013 #41

A dog with CCW? NutmegYankee Apr 2013 #43

You really should adopt cui bono Apr 2013 #46

I'll have my gay BF and his partner do the adopting. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #47

another child was killed by a pitbull today ecstatic Apr 2013 #49

most of the time what the media calls "pit bulls" gejohnston Apr 2013 #53

We routinely hear that owners of pit bulls don't know how to handle them properly Orrex Apr 2013 #63

Because when those attack they get called "pit bulls" Recursion Apr 2013 #66

Hmm. Hadn't thought of it that way. Orrex Apr 2013 #70

Well, if you're going to ban them, the actual definition becomes extremely important Recursion Apr 2013 #72

Then the same question applies: what do we do? Orrex Apr 2013 #74

So there's a few issues here Recursion Apr 2013 #75

Okay, but... Orrex Apr 2013 #77

perfect chart gejohnston Apr 2013 #81

I already asked about that: Orrex Apr 2013 #82

yes they do gejohnston Apr 2013 #83

But how does that affect the actual case? Orrex Apr 2013 #84

it certainly does affect public perception gejohnston Apr 2013 #85

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #55

The problem is any large dog gets called a "pit bull" in the media Recursion Apr 2013 #65

absolutely agree! DrDan Apr 2013 #78

I love the smell of ignorance. flvegan Apr 2013 #51

Was not trying to pull your chain :) The Straight Story Apr 2013 #52

There's a large group of people in our nation who think the only solution to many problems ... spin Apr 2013 #54

Bans are stupid OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #60

My experience with Pit Bulls has been similar to yours. ... spin Apr 2013 #61

Exactly OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #87

+1 nt Live and Learn Apr 2013 #56

Thank you for your response. flvegan Apr 2013 #88

This is a law written by city White folks ileus Apr 2013 #58

"Pit Bull" is an ill-defined term, so I predict this will go badly Recursion Apr 2013 #64

I oppose the ban, but I am all for owner responsibility Trajan Apr 2013 #71

And some have been tried and convicted. hamsterjill Apr 2013 #76

Good. Those dogs are nuts Jake Izzy Apr 2013 #80