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Thor_MN

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133. I'm thinking you may need a mirror...

Wed Apr 24, 2013, 11:18 PM

Apr 2013

One could kill with an encyclopedia as well as Mien Kampf, neither are designed specifically for that purpose, unlike a firearm, which is expressly designed to kill.

Words COULD lead one to commit murder, but the actual murder is committed with a weapon, be it a firearm, edged weapon, bare hands, etc. I'm not sure how a gun could kill itself, that just plain doesn't make any sense. A gun can be used for suicide or used to accidentally kill a child or family member without any rational thought or words used at all. Your entire premise that firearms are the innocent victims of words is ridiculous.

I do not fear my neighbor's thoughts. If I did, I would probably move to a remote area and booby trap the hell out of my property, as well as maintain and fondle an arsenal, just in case they did come for my best friends... it's hard to find individuals of their caliber.

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I'm a proud knife owner [View all] Uzair Apr 2013 OP

Great point. +1000 99th_Monkey Apr 2013 #1

Good one sarisataka Apr 2013 #3

You appear to be proud to exercise you 1st amendment rights. pintobean Apr 2013 #2

Get back to us when a DU post wipes out a room full of kids, and we'll talk. (nt) Paladin Apr 2013 #9

What about books? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #21

Godwin much? mac56 Apr 2013 #46

You're saying that book *hasn't* inspired mass-murder? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #54

Oh really, Godwin again? Cleita Apr 2013 #79

Fair enough... Pelican Apr 2013 #147

Mein Kampf didn't kill anyone. Hitler did. Dash87 Apr 2013 #58

A distinction that makes no difference. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #60

One is a book and one is a human. That's a pretty big difference. Dash87 Apr 2013 #64

Hitler didn't physically kill anyone either. He used his word, spoken and written, Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #72

Oh, but he did. First Eva Braun and then himself. n/t Cleita Apr 2013 #80

Many murderous monsters in history didn't physically kill anyone, but Dash87 Apr 2013 #106

They also burned great piles of books from personal libraries and public libraries Hekate Apr 2013 #110

He used the book to kill millions -- after he had them disarmed. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #116

Hey wait a minute. If they were armed in the first place, Crunchy Frog Apr 2013 #143

Perhaps, but that means a civil resistance and perhaps conflict in opposition to Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #150

Ummm. . . Hitler didn't disarm the populace. In fact, the only legislation passed under his regime ET Awful Apr 2013 #148

The Jewish population of Germany was disarmed by the Nazi regime Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #149

Sorry to burst billh58 Apr 2013 #193

Your first link addresses a specific quote that I never cited Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #195

Again, your right-wing paranoia billh58 Apr 2013 #198

do you conceal carry books for your "protection?" frylock Apr 2013 #82

Guns can used for protection from people who read Mein Kampf. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #85

Some people read Mein Kampf for an insight into history as well. Dash87 Apr 2013 #105

"The book itself is not evil, just the man who wrote it (and the ideas within it)" Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #114

You called the book itself bad, but whatever. You compared it to a gun. Dash87 Apr 2013 #123

When? Crunchy Frog Apr 2013 #144

The Warsaw ghetto uprising comes to mind. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #151

Yup... they killed 17 of them Nazis... bobclark86 Apr 2013 #159

Feel free to walk obediently to whatever fate decided for you Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #167

Wait... bobclark86 Apr 2013 #168

"...what? That I support Nazis?" Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #178

Some might. pintobean Apr 2013 #91

As a proud book owner I carry a book with me wherever I go. Hekate Apr 2013 #112

you book toters are just starving for attention, aren't you? frylock Apr 2013 #127

Concealed books? You mean like "book learning"? JVS Apr 2013 #129

Mein Kampf is a book not a gun. Fearless Apr 2013 #154

Of all the people that died during WWII, I doubt any of them were killed with a copy of ANY book Thor_MN Apr 2013 #93

+1 BainsBane Apr 2013 #95

I've never seen so many people work so hard to be so obtuse. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #115

Obtuse? Thor_MN Apr 2013 #121

No, it just points out how many work so hard to be so dull-witted. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #125

I'm thinking you may need a mirror... Thor_MN Apr 2013 #133

"Words COULD lead one to commit murder, but the actual murder is committed with a weapon" Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #152

Where did I say that weapons commit murder? Thor_MN Apr 2013 #156

I never maintained books were the mechanical means of killing Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #163

Wow, just wow... Thor_MN Apr 2013 #174

What weapon can kill without first having a mind motivated by the idea of killing? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #179

Most weapons do not have minds... Thor_MN Apr 2013 #203

Good grief Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #204

Do you ever stop to consider that no one is agreeing with you? Thor_MN Apr 2013 #205

I'm a proud book owner -- got cases and cases of them -- me and mine will be well-defended... Hekate Apr 2013 #108

For you proud knife-owners: know that book owners can be sharp witted, too. Hekate Apr 2013 #146

In theory it could. Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #98

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #185

Otto...here boy... cyberswede Apr 2013 #188

Juror #4 pintobean Apr 2013 #189

It takes all kinds, I guess. cyberswede Apr 2013 #190

No other nation on Earth has a "right" to own weapons Uzair Apr 2013 #196

I don't think I have a right to own a gun pintobean Apr 2013 #197

It's the proud part you don't like. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #4

Yawn!! badtoworse Apr 2013 #5

Just more of the same. premium Apr 2013 #6

You make an excellent point Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #7

He does? Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #11

At the tip of the knife. nt. premium Apr 2013 #13

I dunno. Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #15

I agree, premium Apr 2013 #17

Just checked mine -- it's not there. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #35

Yes he does. Here's where. 99th_Monkey Apr 2013 #81

excellent answer noiretextatique Apr 2013 #92

Balderdash and nonsense. Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #99

Oh please, you made me LOL Hekate Apr 2013 #113

Point me toward some. Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #119

Well, we're looking at one... truebluegreen Apr 2013 #132

What? In your living room? Don't be daft. nt Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #141

? truebluegreen Apr 2013 #155

Gun owners feel they are under attack by people wanting to take their right to own a gun away.... octothorpe Apr 2013 #8

Not too many people want to take away anyone's right to own guns. EOTE Apr 2013 #36

I find following the gun debates here on DU difficult octothorpe Apr 2013 #61

Gun owners aren't ALL "insane anti-social psychopaths who hate humanity"... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #97

Just sayin... FreeEmily Apr 2013 #184

Depends on the caliber.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #187

I can see "proud of being a good shot", but I agree "Proud of owning a gun" is odd. haele Apr 2013 #104

Well said nt Boom Sound 416 Apr 2013 #183

What's a nunchuck? Some sort of catapult for Catholic sisters? Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #10

Nunchuch - Hilarious! I agree with the rest of your post. badtoworse Apr 2013 #19

I guess his "civil discourse" is par for the GD/META course. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #37

Your entire post sounds silly, not just the title. hack89 Apr 2013 #12

"There is no gun debate" pintobean Apr 2013 #24

A powerful NKA lobby sounds even dumber. Blue Owl Apr 2013 #14

I love my cat we can do it Apr 2013 #16

. one_voice Apr 2013 #18

I'm a proud owner of two non-killer kittehs. Does that count? spooky3 Apr 2013 #138

I'd say so we can do it Apr 2013 #194

Jury Results Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #20

"Par for the course for the anti-gunners." Right on the nose... Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #40

" little to suggest stuff like this will be hidden" Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #47

Nothing progressive about being anti-gun... Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #66

You're the one complaining about DU posts. Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #74

Now, Cali, from one progressive to another... Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #83

So your complaint is that the posts are mean, uncivil and hateful... Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #111

Interesting, it seems the main objective of controllers/banners... Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #160

Well said. Thanks for saying it so clearly and forcefully. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #180

You're welcome. Speculating here. It seems the stigmatization campaign... Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #181

very few people here are "anti-gun" frylock Apr 2013 #84

I'm referencing the OP in my discussion, though there are some full-blown antis. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #86

"controller/banner"... what are you referring to? n/t cui bono Apr 2013 #137

LOL - what a bunch of weinies they are Skittles Apr 2013 #102

They aren't even Armour hot dogs DainBramaged Apr 2013 #191

"Juror #3 voted LEAVE IT ALONE & said: This post is awesome. Gun nut alerter needs to take a hike" Ghost in the Machine Apr 2013 #107

Oh look. Some whiny little gunboi got slammed 5-1 DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2013 #122

I had nunchucks once olddots Apr 2013 #22

On salads I usually enjoy a vinaigrette. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2013 #23

Wow. rrneck Apr 2013 #25

that's not funny... snooper2 Apr 2013 #26

"When you're 6'8" and black, you have to play a ukulele" Heather MC Apr 2013 #33

You can get a ukulele without a background check? tclambert Apr 2013 #65

Almost as stupid as being, "anti-gun" pipoman Apr 2013 #27

Why should anyone have a problem edhopper Apr 2013 #28

Umm, 75% of the American public, including non-gun-owners? Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #44

I was being sarcastic edhopper Apr 2013 #48

Sorry, usually I have a good radar for that. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #68

That's okay edhopper Apr 2013 #69

You could same the same for people who use the words "gun grabbers" Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #29

So you agree with "Fat Tony" Scalia?? (Don't worry, I think he's right, too.) nt Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #49

Broken clock and all, yes. nt Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #53

Unlimited? No. Who said that? pipoman Apr 2013 #78

Actually edhopper Apr 2013 #30

knives are "designed to kill people", you say El Progreso Apr 2013 #31

It would be instructive for those newbies scrambling to incorporate the word "progress" ... 11 Bravo Apr 2013 #34

... Robb Apr 2013 #41

Dude sure loves his soup. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #52

it's probably correct barbtries Apr 2013 #67

Wow, seriously? Your ethnocentrism is showing. And it doesn't look very good. Squinch Apr 2013 #88

First of all edhopper Apr 2013 #39

I was talking about knives El Progreso Apr 2013 #42

I did edhopper Apr 2013 #51

Yes it does sound silly Progressive dog Apr 2013 #32

You know, there are a lot of aspersions cast toward gun-owners, but "gun lover"... Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #59

See the debate clip with the gun lover and Joe Biden Progressive dog Apr 2013 #77

Let's be clearer, okay? Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #89

They hate me cause I love Corvettes would be more like it Progressive dog Apr 2013 #117

Well, we all know the dynamic, Progress: Inflate an Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #164

"Inflate an enemy into gas- giant status" Progressive dog Apr 2013 #166

My brother is a proud gun owner. Flying Squirrel Apr 2013 #38

Nicely done. pintobean Apr 2013 #45

Poverty and racism are also "facts of life here in the US". DanTex Apr 2013 #63

Oh, they have come up with defenses, you just don't accept them. nt Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #73

just like we don't accept there's any REAL controversy regarding the science of global warming. nt laundry_queen Apr 2013 #126

In other words, you cannot, will no, must not, open your mind. Nothing new. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #157

LOL, projection at its finest. nt laundry_queen Apr 2013 #162

I've always thought psychology was the cheap seats of intellectual inquiry. nt Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #165

Chalk up another right wing point of view with this poster. nt laundry_queen Apr 2013 #169

Which, the psych metaphor or the "projection" itself? nt Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #182

Oh, I agree with you (for the most part) Flying Squirrel Apr 2013 #76

Maybe he should just go vote iamthebandfanman Apr 2013 #173

Just be sure you're not carrying it and $50 cash when you're coming out of a liquor store... KansDem Apr 2013 #43

I'm a proud owner of a 12 ga. MynameisBlarney Apr 2013 #50

I've never been particularly "proud" of owning a gun, back when I did Recursion Apr 2013 #55

It's always funny that, in response to posts like these, none of the NRAers ever seems to actually DanTex Apr 2013 #56

A weapon is a tool discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2013 #57

My firearms are designed to save lives... ileus Apr 2013 #62

Fancy seeing you 22% of the time. nt Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #70

Maybe he is referring to these edhopper Apr 2013 #75

guns are designed to kill BainsBane Apr 2013 #96

Is it too hard to imagine that some people ought to be killed? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #118

*Ought* to be killed? Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #120

No, they're designed to take lives. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #100

A person might say "I'm a proud archer" BlueStreak Apr 2013 #71

What if it something you built? oneshooter Apr 2013 #131

Yes, if there was some skill, craftsmanship, or artistry demonstrated in the process BlueStreak Apr 2013 #140

How about a proud Ford owner or a proud Mercedes Benz owner? Bake Apr 2013 #87

Don't go dragging FORD into this. El Fuego Apr 2013 #136

But one might be the proud owner of either. Or both. Bake Apr 2013 #200

Agreed. You do in fact seem silly. geckosfeet Apr 2013 #90

It's an addiction all right.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #94

anyone gushing over an instrument of death Skittles Apr 2013 #101

I tend to agree with this statement Go Vols Apr 2013 #139

Well, I really do love my Henkels n/t rucky Apr 2013 #103

My husband made his own knife...calls it Baby...we take it in the front seat console when we.... Tikki Apr 2013 #109

You're free to be a proud non gun-owner. That's what I love about this country. Flatulo Apr 2013 #124

All I know is don't take one to a gunfight Gman Apr 2013 #128

Shop owner in Chicago took a ballbat to a gunfight a couple weeks ago. He won. n/t ieoeja Apr 2013 #186

Must've been terrible shots Gman Apr 2013 #199

Maybe they're proud of having passed a background check. JVS Apr 2013 #130

National Bomb Association!!!! Yeah!! NBA!!! NBA baby!!! El Fuego Apr 2013 #134

Okay, but I do have a really nice fork. cui bono Apr 2013 #135

I am a proud Sword owner.. AsahinaKimi Apr 2013 #142

Nice. I'd be proud of those too. Recursion Apr 2013 #158

Its my God-given right! ErikJ Apr 2013 #145

My Global chef's knife makes TheManInTheMac Apr 2013 #153

good point samsingh Apr 2013 #161

I'm a proud gunpowder owner... joanbarnes Apr 2013 #170

Yeah, actually. I have a knife in my hand 8 hours a day and I openly love to promote them. sir pball Apr 2013 #171

do you target stab with it ? n/t iamthebandfanman Apr 2013 #172

I am a proud lawnmower owner Wednesdays Apr 2013 #175

Proud axe owner here myself. Arkana Apr 2013 #176

I'm a proud owner of nail clippers. Lint Head Apr 2013 #177

Welcome to DU billh58 Apr 2013 #192

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Apr 2013 #201

I have over a dozen knives HockeyMom Apr 2013 #202