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3. This town deserves a better class of trolling. nt

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He didn't even have a gun in the boat , Yet the police riddled the boat WITH GUNFIRE [View all] newmember Apr 2013 OP

-1 Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #1

what's wrong newmember Apr 2013 #2

This town deserves a better class of trolling. nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #3

+1 uppityperson Apr 2013 #4

Oh I'm sorry , this make you feel better about the police in Boston newmember Apr 2013 #5

Your pity party for the terrorist who was not shot in this standoff is duly noted. nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #7

+1 Still think the OP needs to brush up on his trolling. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #143

Oh yeah, let's just Zoeisright Apr 2013 #6

Ahhh yeah.... it's called containment newmember Apr 2013 #8

Have you seen the boat or shots where they fired? Did they release any photos yet? uppityperson Apr 2013 #22

Yes , the owner of the boat posted pictures newmember Apr 2013 #27

Link? I'd like to see them. Thank you. How do you decide what info to trust? uppityperson Apr 2013 #31

Agree with uppityperson. Link? n/t susanna Apr 2013 #63

There's a thread about it in GD here newmember Apr 2013 #69

I notice you keep avoiding answering my question. How do you decide uppityperson Apr 2013 #81

it's a very good question. i think we all decide based on our own experience & personal bias. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #96

Yes... it's on that thermal video. Fawke Em Apr 2013 #77

Thank you. uppityperson Apr 2013 #82

How do you decide what is real and what isn't. bahrbearian Apr 2013 #170

Do you know they did not ask him to surrender prior to firing? Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #30

Do you know what he said from his courageous hiding spot in a stranger's boat? Perhaps he claimed to newmember Apr 2013 #73

You don't know when that happened. It could just as easily have happened near the end. n/t pnwmom Apr 2013 #126

"courageous hiding spot"??? actslikeacarrot Apr 2013 #163

How do you know they did not ask him to surrendeer? uppityperson Apr 2013 #33

They did. elleng Apr 2013 #50

Conviced to surrender .... lol newmember Apr 2013 #65

He was never in critical condition. LisaL Apr 2013 #68

My mistake he was listed as serious condition newmember Apr 2013 #71

then why is the media saying he's in critical conditon? HiPointDem Apr 2013 #97

He's in FAIR condition now. MADem Apr 2013 #117

the poster claimed he was never in critical condition. the media reported he was in critical HiPointDem Apr 2013 #121

The media has reported a lot of stuff, but in this case, I think they got that from the MADem Apr 2013 #138

Are you 100% sure they didn't? Warpy Apr 2013 #52

How do you know they didn't? How do you know he didn't make a noise pnwmom Apr 2013 #125

After murdering a young campus cop in cold blood, too...nt MADem Apr 2013 #58

So he was convicted for that murder, already. bahrbearian Apr 2013 #171

Yes. supernaut Apr 2013 #185

He will be. They've got him on video committing that murder, too. MADem Apr 2013 #204

I'll wait till after the trial . bahrbearian Apr 2013 #206

Of course you will. We all will, since none of us have a time machine. MADem Apr 2013 #207

So now you'll wait for the trial. I thought he was guilty. Now he's not? bahrbearian Apr 2013 #208

YOU thought he was guilty? Well, then, why are you crabbing at me? MADem Apr 2013 #209

I was just going by what you told me. bahrbearian Apr 2013 #211

I think you confuse being guilty of something with being guilty in a court of law uppityperson Apr 2013 #212

Does being declared guilty on the internet count? I'll wait for the trial. We might even have bahrbearian Apr 2013 #215

He never had a gun, so he never shot at them alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #86

I'm confused how you could be so sure of this? brett_jv Apr 2013 #112

He can't. He's just guessing. pnwmom Apr 2013 #128

How do you know he NEVER had a gun? Just because they only recovered the one on the brother pnwmom Apr 2013 #127

I don't know whether he threw any of the bombs alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #184

You said before he had no weapon, but most of the rest of us pnwmom Apr 2013 #196

I said he had no "weapon"? I don't think I did alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #199

What about the self-inflicted throat wound? Slingshot? HooptieWagon Apr 2013 #160

Indeed, what about it? alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #173

You just rocked the boat. LOL rightsideout Apr 2013 #9

'Others' are engaging newmember in discussion here, elleng Apr 2013 #23

The response "your concern is noted" is Butterbean Apr 2013 #166

I just have a hard time tblue Apr 2013 #10

You know how scary that sounds newmember Apr 2013 #13

His rights were not suspended, elleng Apr 2013 #21

They were trying to capture him alive, could very easily have shot him to little bits. uppityperson Apr 2013 #26

+1 HiPointDem Apr 2013 #38

I heard they read him the Miranda. So what rights did they take away? pnwmom Apr 2013 #129

You know what's amazing to me? malaise Apr 2013 #141

the ferocity on DU to accept and condemn based on what they are being told in the Swagman Apr 2013 #144

I agree. midnight Apr 2013 #152

I am definitely willing to cut the police some slack in this situation GitRDun Apr 2013 #11

A negotiator had been talking to him. elleng Apr 2013 #12

I believe I heard the Watertown chief also say that bullets... grasswire Apr 2013 #15

Right. elleng Apr 2013 #18

Officials: Suspect Unarmed When Arrested in Boat newmember Apr 2013 #25

Since Mr. Tsarnaev had ZERO GUNS in the boat, that's quite a miraculous occurrence alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #87

So, now it's 'probably' ... a 'fact'. brett_jv Apr 2013 #114

Making stuff up...he definitely didn't have one in the boat, right alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #174

You don't know there is no evidence -- all you know is the photos you have seen. pnwmom Apr 2013 #197

Of the publicly available evidence, there is none that he held a gun alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #200

Is there a site where anyone can see all the publicly available evidence? pnwmom Apr 2013 #201

I don't know that I've personally seen everything that is publicly available alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #203

I'm not going to go hunting for that because I don't think it's important. pnwmom Apr 2013 #205

Yes, it's a fairly small issue alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #213

So, it's a "fact" that he "probably" didn't have a gun? My head hurts. 11 Bravo Apr 2013 #162

Agreed...that was inelegant alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #176

They lied about shots coming from the boat. This is so bad newmember Apr 2013 #16

'They' lied? elleng Apr 2013 #17

Yes newmember Apr 2013 #20

There was understandable confusion. n/t pnwmom Apr 2013 #130

I'm sure this will be investigated and reported on. Why don't we wait to see the outcome? gateley Apr 2013 #14

Yes, gate. elleng Apr 2013 #19

Most trolls are less obvious RetroLounge Apr 2013 #24

So you think they fired without warning him? BootinUp Apr 2013 #28

Oh of course not, that could never happen by police newmember Apr 2013 #37

That is some strong proof that Boston PD fucked up BootinUp Apr 2013 #39

You think those guys in Boston weren't pumped full of adrenalin. newmember Apr 2013 #45

They had all the right to assume that he wasn't unarmed. LisaL Apr 2013 #48

He's an American citizen contained as I previously stated newmember Apr 2013 #53

Mistakes will happen in such situations. LisaL Apr 2013 #57

His citizenship isn't what was question, it was whether or not he was armed davidpdx Apr 2013 #119

He could have lobbed more explosives from the boat. They didn't know what he had pnwmom Apr 2013 #132

So the citizenship was the key element here? pnwmom Apr 2013 #131

Would it be OK had the person in the boat not been an American citizen? treestar Apr 2013 #167

Hey, come on ... lpbk2713 Apr 2013 #51

Logic fallacy. Just because something has happened in a situation does not mean it will always uppityperson Apr 2013 #41

It's not a fallacy at all , not one bit newmember Apr 2013 #47

So because la cops shot a totally wrong vehicle, it logically follows that these ones, on the uppityperson Apr 2013 #75

It literally is like ... a textbook logical fallacy ... brett_jv Apr 2013 #116

The guy who owned the boat Politicalboi Apr 2013 #29

Another first report now wrong, link to interview by boat owner. uppityperson Apr 2013 #34

This proved that he was hurt long before he got into that boat graham4anything Apr 2013 #134

whut? Demonaut Apr 2013 #32

Guy's alive, right? Beacool Apr 2013 #35

As I recall, the "guy in California in the cabin" is burned to the crisp. LisaL Apr 2013 #36

If he didn't have a gun, then he couldn't have tried to kill himself or shot his tongue out either. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #40

Unless he did it before he got to the boat and ditched the gun somewhere. uppityperson Apr 2013 #42

he tried to kill himself to the extent that he shot out part of his mouth, *then* escaped to the HiPointDem Apr 2013 #59

It is quite a preposterous scenario, I'll admit alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #88

I don't recall police ever saying he tried to kill himself or shot his tongue. LisaL Apr 2013 #43

they said he tried to commit suicide in the boat and that was the reason he couldn't talk and HiPointDem Apr 2013 #54

Who are they? I heard all of it, but who is the source of this info? LisaL Apr 2013 #60

in that report, 'authorities". if you heard it, why did you say you hadn't heard it? HiPointDem Apr 2013 #61

I haven't heard police say it. LisaL Apr 2013 #62

so do you think 'investigators' are unconnected from police or policing agencies (homeland HiPointDem Apr 2013 #70

Reported by police. bahrbearian Apr 2013 #172

newmember. do you not plan on being here long, cause i cannot imagine that name seabeyond Apr 2013 #44

ROFL! BootinUp Apr 2013 #46

+1 nt Codeine Apr 2013 #158

If he was unarmed, it's fair to question why the boat was riddled with gunfire. limpyhobbler Apr 2013 #49

Do I seem intimidated newmember Apr 2013 #56

Its also a fair question as to whether the boat was "riddled" with live ammunition gunfire onenote Apr 2013 #198

Oh please. What an asinine theory. MADem Apr 2013 #55

"they would have dropped a 'hot' gun in the boat and claimed he was using it. " newmember Apr 2013 #66

Enjoy your stay, pal. nt MADem Apr 2013 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author gateley Apr 2013 #64

Any pictures of the bullet riddled boat floating around the web? Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #72

Here....... I count at least 50 shots newmember Apr 2013 #79

They sho nuf shot it up alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #90

Not clear those are bullet holes... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #115

How about these? magellan Apr 2013 #122

More fuzzy images in the age of gigapixles.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #133

You're kidding, right? Occulus Apr 2013 #188

You're kidding, right? You don't think real bullets would have made a hole or two? randome Apr 2013 #194

The boat owner had a good observation rightsideout Apr 2013 #74

Yeah okay , he shot himself in the neck to commit suicide threw the gun and crawled in newmember Apr 2013 #84

One always ditches one's gun in impossible to excavate sewers upon attempting neck-shot suicide alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #93

except that he'd already been shot at by police during the gunfight/suv getaway thing. so HiPointDem Apr 2013 #91

ROFL alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #95

look at the picture of the police surrounding the boat, then the artist's rendering of dzhokhar HiPointDem Apr 2013 #104

The comic book image of him shooting the gun is, of course, ridiculous alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #106

Whoah! He had a squirt gun with Red Dye #6 in it! OMG!!!11111 uppityperson Apr 2013 #190

There was no gun alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #92

Right ... he just set the bomb that killed and maimed people ... brett_jv Apr 2013 #120

I can only alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #179

This message was self-deleted by its author Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #76

you are utterly failing in your efforts Skittles Apr 2013 #78

The little boy didn't even have a gun, and yet he placed the bomb behind him to kill him /nt still_one Apr 2013 #80

Make sure to let us know how the gun range went!!! Rex Apr 2013 #83

2 anonymous officials report newmember was unarmed on the gun range shooting trip pinboy3niner Apr 2013 #85

Oh.... you guys are just wrong newmember Apr 2013 #89

And after having had bombs thrown at them and a cop shot to death, HOW were they to know that? Hekate Apr 2013 #94

They weren't alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #98

These professionals were tired, stressed human beings pnwmom Apr 2013 #136

Correct alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #177

I heard the police say he shot at them BainsBane Apr 2013 #99

there's audio of a barrage of shots. i think if no gun was found in the boat, the only possible HiPointDem Apr 2013 #101

It's quite likely the police imagined it, since he didn't have a gun alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #102

the article sites unnamed sources BainsBane Apr 2013 #103

OK...hold on to that alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #105

I see nothing humorous about any of this BainsBane Apr 2013 #107

Oh, that would the Washington Post alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #110

If that's all you're trying to say ... brett_jv Apr 2013 #123

To answer your last question. Someone they thought may have had a gun, bomb or other explosives. uppityperson Apr 2013 #193

True alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #195

because he didn't shoot at them? HiPointDem Apr 2013 #100

It certainly raises a question in my mind. Live and Learn Apr 2013 #108

By the way, my friends returned safely to Calif., and their family in Boston are okay too Hekate Apr 2013 #109

So now we are to judge the efficacy of the police based merely on proximity? Savannahmann Apr 2013 #148

He never had a gun ever Milliesmom Apr 2013 #111

Unanswered questions are good food for skepticism. gordianot Apr 2013 #113

They released the man they had strip. That was a reasonable precaution pnwmom Apr 2013 #135

(revmclaren comes running in) revmclaren Apr 2013 #118

After what they'd been through, it's hard to blame them for making a mistake. pnwmom Apr 2013 #124

He was already wounded before he got in the boat....... Historic NY Apr 2013 #137

How come so much flack here and not in the matching LBN ? dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #139

At the time it was reported that they were using rubber bullets. GeorgeGist Apr 2013 #140

Sure looks that way, fiberglass isn't bullet proof and the suspect would have been dead... Historic NY Apr 2013 #145

Based on the sources I'm willling to believe he had no gun... marions ghost Apr 2013 #142

Just how we're the police to know he was unarmed newfie11 Apr 2013 #146

By the same token, if we as citizens have to endure police who start shooting Savannahmann Apr 2013 #151

What??? newfie11 Apr 2013 #164

So because they are police we should expect no responsibility from them? Savannahmann Apr 2013 #168

I'd imagine we'll get the answers to all that eventually ... brett_jv Apr 2013 #189

Really? Savannahmann Apr 2013 #214

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2013 #147

They also had unclear thermal images of him moving about. randome Apr 2013 #149

For heavens sake! Glitterati Apr 2013 #150

Ya got that right newfie11 Apr 2013 #153

Why? Glitterati Apr 2013 #156

I totally agree newfie11 Apr 2013 #165

unless it's a troll trying to get liberals to show sympathy or concern toward the bomber Demonaut Apr 2013 #175

There seems to be several of them newfie11 Apr 2013 #186

The people who were killed at the marathon were unarmed.He didnt give a shit. SummerSnow Apr 2013 #154

So now we're Biblical in our revenge? Savannahmann Apr 2013 #161

Do you mean?? kentuck Apr 2013 #155

Here less than a week, and already making DU suck. Codeine Apr 2013 #157

+1000 (nt) Paladin Apr 2013 #159

Sorry for asking hard questions newmember Apr 2013 #181

exacty mercuryblues Apr 2013 #169

Rubber bullets, as mentioned upthread, is more plausible. randome Apr 2013 #178

They were not rubber bullets newmember Apr 2013 #182

And you know that because of your extensive forensics experience? randome Apr 2013 #192

yeah they just warrprayer Apr 2013 #217

Its a damn donco Apr 2013 #180

You bring up a good point gopiscrap Apr 2013 #183

That's what you DO when you are trying to capture someone kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #187

Rubber. Bullets. Upthread. randome Apr 2013 #191

Yup and they riddled the boat but he survived Progressive dog Apr 2013 #202

So how did the shooting range go? Rex Apr 2013 #210

How did they know who was in the boat. bahrbearian Apr 2013 #216

I was listening warrprayer Apr 2013 #218