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Warpy

(113,131 posts)
132. The people who burned that baby alive in Chile
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 06:03 PM
Apr 2013

thought it was absolutely true that a 5 day old infant was the antichrist.

I suppose that's not abuse, either, since the parents thought it was true.

Working theories that have evidence in their favor (in the case of the Earth-Thea collision case samples of Moon rocks and computer modeling) are taught in the schools. Those that have evidence only from a book of New Stone Age myths are not.

Teaching religion and mislabeling it science is abuse.

Private schools, charter schools and home schooling gopiscrap Apr 2013 #1
Amen! I feel bad for the President's children, who must be getting a second rate education hughee99 Apr 2013 #5
Doubt they are being taught that Jesus rode a dinosaur AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #25
Who knows? Since the post I'm responding to lumps in all hughee99 Apr 2013 #34
+100% /nt demwing Apr 2013 #90
Your proposal sounds like the beginning of a totalitarian society. TimberValley Apr 2013 #21
Andover should be outlawed? KamaAina Apr 2013 #22
There are plenty of good private schools out there NewJeffCT Apr 2013 #65
My daughter is an educator in a charter school, RebelOne Apr 2013 #141
To paint all home schooling with the same brush as this school is wrong. Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #149
This is what we deserve when we put religious beliefs on a pedestal and shield it from criticism. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #2
+1 SunSeeker Apr 2013 #4
^^ You said it. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #7
+1 Marr Apr 2013 #16
Yes yes yes. Initech Apr 2013 #40
ame with political and philosophical opinions too... LanternWaste Apr 2013 #106
Yer goddam right. Iggo Apr 2013 #109
+ infinity. Apophis Apr 2013 #117
+1 \n Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #119
Sent their kid to a religious school... gcomeau Apr 2013 #3
teaching lies in place of science is child abuse sigmasix Apr 2013 #6
They are not teaching lies, they are teaching ignorance. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #9
Nail meet hammer. snagglepuss Apr 2013 #14
No it is not child abuse. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #26
It IS abuse. It's indoctrination into a dangerous and ignorant cult. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #32
It's not abuse because they believe it to be true Ter Apr 2013 #35
Uhm, okay. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #48
If that's the best you've got, it's no wonder you've already lost Ter Apr 2013 #71
Science does not contradict it's self Lordquinton Apr 2013 #74
Uhm, okay. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #76
I'm sure that's a typo. LiberalAndProud Apr 2013 #91
Exactly MAD Dave Apr 2013 #154
there's shades of 'wrong' yes. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #120
The people who burned that baby alive in Chile Warpy Apr 2013 #132
Sorry, but you don't get to define "child abuse" based on whatever suits your mood. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #37
Neither do you. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #50
sigmasix brought it up, not me. Have you read any of this thread at all? Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #52
I edited. Putting me back on ignore? Now I don't need to read YOUR shitty attitude. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #56
You need to think about what he's saying from a different angle. Sirveri Apr 2013 #150
christians *have* defined 'child abuse' that way in some places.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #121
I do not see where atheism is being equated to child abuse. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #135
"I do not see..." you should have just stopped right there. nt eqfan592 Apr 2013 #148
Oh, zing! Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #152
Sorry, but I've had my fill of bandying words with willfully ignorant and obtuse people for one day. eqfan592 Apr 2013 #161
"Bandying words" is the new euphamism for bullshit? Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #163
clean, I strongly agree. This IS child abuse. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2013 #68
It may not be actual child abuse, but does come damn close sometimes, IMO. n/t AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #51
Sometimes. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #54
don't know where to jump in here, but Brainstormy Apr 2013 #66
It is abuse. Purposely disabling a child who is counting on adults. we can do it Apr 2013 #146
Disabling? LOL! Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #151
Know any kids raised this way? Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #156
From foot binding. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #159
I do too. They are crippled. Both in critical thinking and how the world works. we can do it Apr 2013 #164
It is the mental equivalent of foot binding. Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #155
Is this some odd game? Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #158
It should remain perfectly legal. Freedom of religion/speech. nt. TimberValley Apr 2013 #8
I agree, but that school should not legally count as school. ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #11
hee hee. i can see it now.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #122
NO! You are free to believe whatever you want. You should not be free to force... TheMadMonk Apr 2013 #18
So parents can't raise their children in a particular religious upbringing? TimberValley Apr 2013 #24
they should not be, IMO.... mike_c Apr 2013 #28
And you are welcome to your opinion demwing Apr 2013 #84
By example, yes. By indoctrination, NO! TheMadMonk Apr 2013 #41
Why dont you state your argument in the form of a statement in lieu rhett o rick Apr 2013 #160
and what would you do to prevent this? /nt demwing Apr 2013 #92
i agree that we *should not* as parents be indoctrinating.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #123
They should be forced to remove any mention of science from future tests Bosonic Apr 2013 #38
Yes, perfectly legal they shall remain Angelonthesidelines Apr 2013 #73
Wow. Apophis Apr 2013 #82
that's _your_ belief demwing Apr 2013 #85
How can anyone condone this? Apophis Apr 2013 #87
Again, just the above example, or should all religious teaching be criminalized? /nt demwing Apr 2013 #88
If I seem to recall, and correct me if I'm wrong, Apophis Apr 2013 #95
I don't care to change your mind demwing Apr 2013 #97
Teaching children the misinformation on the test should be illegal. Apophis Apr 2013 #98
interesting that that was your 666th post !` demwing Apr 2013 #103
Giving kids that misinformation is dangerous. Apophis Apr 2013 #112
religious education is one thing, indoctrination into a particular religion another. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #126
why? Niceguy1 Apr 2013 #131
Freedom of speech is not teaching lies to children who have no choice. we can do it Apr 2013 #147
When they get to college they learn about electricity Capt. Obvious Apr 2013 #10
You Hit on My Thoughts Exactly. They'll Be So Far Behind Other Students in College dballance Apr 2013 #13
Any electrical engineer would laugh in your face if said that. Initech Apr 2013 #49
"Were you there?" SalviaBlue Apr 2013 #12
The only possible answer to that question is "Yes, I was." Occulus Apr 2013 #78
Which reply begs the question... ohheckyeah Apr 2013 #94
So about that zombie dude MattBaggins Apr 2013 #124
Why yes, yes I was. ohheckyeah Apr 2013 #144
This works against the fundie indoctrination Politicub Apr 2013 #15
true there's plenty of atheists.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #127
That is child abuse. Marr Apr 2013 #17
you're right: "then I don't know what is." /nt demwing Apr 2013 #86
How would you feel if someone raised their child to believe it's the year 2350 Marr Apr 2013 #102
I 'd think they were pretty foolish, but not abusive /nt demwing Apr 2013 #104
Well, we disagree then. Marr Apr 2013 #107
Considering that the vast majority of the country demwing Apr 2013 #110
Wait-- is the "vast majority" of Christianity evolution-denying fundamentalists or not? Marr Apr 2013 #118
No shift demwing Apr 2013 #125
as is often the case with 'most people'.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #128
In the question at hand demwing Apr 2013 #153
Not only can they teach that gollygee Apr 2013 #19
I was there and dinosaurs didn't exist. Liars! Dash87 Apr 2013 #20
That test is beyond bizarre. But interestingly enough... Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #23
And two of the dumbest attorneys I've ever met came from Liberty. Ikonoklast Apr 2013 #42
Liberty granted Sean Hannity an honorary doctorate. They are clearly idiots. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #47
and neither is some supposedly brilliant but unnamed geneticist. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #129
You want to see his resume? Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #136
This message was self-deleted by its author TimberValley Apr 2013 #27
OMG.... mike_c Apr 2013 #30
if Snopes hadn't checked it out I wouldn't have believed it Enrique Apr 2013 #29
Yes, it's hard to believe people would want to do this to their kids. HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #36
As a Christian, I agree with the answers on the test. nt. TimberValley Apr 2013 #31
i don't believe you Enrique Apr 2013 #43
But I do believe it. nt. TimberValley Apr 2013 #44
You believe that man lived amongst dinosaurs and the earth is only 6000 years old... truebrit71 Apr 2013 #55
I'm not sure about 6,000 years old, but I do believe 10,000 years or younger. nt. TimberValley Apr 2013 #59
Believing it to be true doesn't make it so, and believing in the fact of contrary facts... cleanhippie Apr 2013 #62
Wow.. truebrit71 Apr 2013 #64
Respectfully, what is the source for your belief? No Vested Interest Apr 2013 #67
He's dead, Jim Occulus Apr 2013 #79
Thank God! HangOnKids Apr 2013 #81
Yay! The stupid RW troll is gone! Apophis Apr 2013 #99
I hope you are not a science teacher. SalviaBlue Apr 2013 #45
You believe religious dogma trumps reality? Ikonoklast Apr 2013 #46
You can agree all you want, but you will continue to be wrong and wilfully ignorant. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #60
I'm a Christian too, and I don't agree with mercymechap Apr 2013 #72
You're part of the problem in this country. Apophis Apr 2013 #83
Outlawed? Ter Apr 2013 #33
+1! Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #39
agree!! n/t sammytko Apr 2013 #58
Chil abuse is a crime. This is child abuse. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #63
And this is why Republicans win elections Ter Apr 2013 #70
Republicans win because there are those like yourself that would prefer we ignore reality cleanhippie Apr 2013 #75
+1 Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #133
+1000000 nt eqfan592 Apr 2013 #162
If the bible gives the value of pi = 3, as I understand it does, Occulus Apr 2013 #80
It should be illegal to deliberately teach lies and call yourself a 'school' muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #115
telling kids santa is real is WAY WAY different than telling them god is real. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #130
Of course it's true. proud2BlibKansan Apr 2013 #53
that test is an obscenity ZRT2209 Apr 2013 #57
Home schooling should definitely be disallowed. adieu Apr 2013 #61
Like hell. The Straight Story Apr 2013 #77
i don't oppose home schooling but curriculum should be regulated. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #134
thankfully, you don't make the home schooling rules demwing Apr 2013 #89
Bias is well founded adieu Apr 2013 #93
My personal experience trumps your personal experience demwing Apr 2013 #96
Agreed. Apophis Apr 2013 #100
i don't think it should be outlawed, but curriculum should be secular. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #138
ill be retired and these fourth graders will be running the country RedstDem Apr 2013 #69
not if my H.S. Junior has anything to say about it! Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #139
This is what you call child abuse. Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #101
that's your opinion demwing Apr 2013 #105
So you're saying that it's okay to lie to children? Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #108
Some "lies" are harmless demwing Apr 2013 #111
We're not talking about religious tradition now, are we? Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #114
Teaching ones child about ones relgion is one thing, brainwashing them to believe nonsense is anothe cleanhippie Apr 2013 #142
THIS. Apophis Apr 2013 #113
As Frank Schaeffer described it - "The home school and Christian school movement are creating the Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #116
Home schoolers on DU about to smite you in 3...2....1 GoneOffShore Apr 2013 #145
I guess you can't legislate stupid. There will be a lot of kids who will not have clue one about Pisces Apr 2013 #137
Not just ignorant, WILFULLY ignorant. And that should be a crime. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #143
Statement from Sarah Palin Brimley Apr 2013 #140
Tools to create the dystopias of Huxley and Wells. freshwest Apr 2013 #157
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