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28. DV calls are where most injuries and deaths to police happen

Fri Apr 26, 2013, 08:30 PM

Apr 2013

I join in the outrage against this law but I also have seen very close up enough abusive relationship to understand the frustration that leads to this kind of thing. "Just stop taking them back" sounds much easier than it is if you're not in the abusive relationship. But then again police know they're in danger every time they take one of those calls, and the neighbors feel threatened too.

I like the point upthread that if we had real punishment for abusers and could actually enforce restraining orders (and, yes, this sometimes will mean also jailing the abuse victim if the victim doesn't follow through -- I've seen that, too) this law wouldn't be an issue.

This is an unacceptable solution to the burden that DV places on neighbors and police, but the situation it was a mistaken attempt to fix is unacceptable too.

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Cities across America require landlords to evict domestic violence VICTIMS [View all] pnwmom Apr 2013 OP

I have said this before. Kalidurga Apr 2013 #1

Huh? pnwmom Apr 2013 #2

But this is about a woman who had to have the police out three times due to Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #3

If he did it three times, he should be in jail, is what I think it being said there. freshwest Apr 2013 #6

Yeah, but the main story is about the woman being evicted from her home due to police coming out... Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #8

Yes, shafting the victim. But with a system of supports in place, she'd have left the first time. freshwest Apr 2013 #9

Many abuse victims have been so torn down by the abuser that they feel worthless & unworthy of help peacebird Apr 2013 #17

What would lead you to think I don't know that very well? This law is a symptom of a bigger problem. freshwest Apr 2013 #19

I apologize, that is not what I thought you were saying. It appears we are in violent agreement. peacebird Apr 2013 #20

Thanks. This thread seems to bring that out. I'm gone, see you later. freshwest Apr 2013 #23

Maybe it was her place. He's her ex-boyfriend. How do we know she didn't pnwmom Apr 2013 #37

If he'd been kept in jail, it wouldn't have happened, no matter what. She called the first time... freshwest Apr 2013 #38

Reading the article is helpful TalkingDog Apr 2013 #10

So punish the victim? Canuckistanian Apr 2013 #31

I don't get where people are seeing me say that. Kalidurga Apr 2013 #42

Franken discussed how many women and children were made homeless from DV. At that time, he still freshwest Apr 2013 #4

They wouldn't need so many shelters if they didn't make landlords evict them. pnwmom Apr 2013 #5

The majority of homeless were not evicted, but escaped from home. freshwest Apr 2013 #7

While I'm not defending these laws I understand how they sometimes happen. davsand Apr 2013 #11

Thanks for the context, davsand. n/t pnwmom Apr 2013 #15

Many women cant escape. revmclaren Apr 2013 #12

Thank you for posting this. It really sickens me. truedelphi Apr 2013 #13

What a story, truedelphi. pnwmom Apr 2013 #14

One statistic I have memorized from my brush with truedelphi Apr 2013 #18

I'm not surprised by that at all, sadly enough. pnwmom Apr 2013 #32

This is so fucking wrong on so many levels. Initech Apr 2013 #16

another salvo lobbed in the war against women... SemperEadem Apr 2013 #21

Those in cities with this kind of law Savannahmann Apr 2013 #22

Thank goodness the ACLU is helping her. pennylane100 Apr 2013 #24

God Bless America! AZ Progressive Apr 2013 #25

informative and the lights went on hopemountain Apr 2013 #26

Question for those with legal chops DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2013 #27

Good question. The article mentions other violations. pnwmom Apr 2013 #36

DV calls are where most injuries and deaths to police happen Recursion Apr 2013 #28

The law could also take effect in a stalking situation, pnwmom Apr 2013 #33

Abusers are good at getting the victims to want them to come back Recursion Apr 2013 #35

Not in Hawaii KauaiK Apr 2013 #29

Same here. It's a societal problem, not just that family. freshwest Apr 2013 #39

Norristown? drm604 Apr 2013 #30

Gee doesn't that work out well for the GOP who Politicalboi Apr 2013 #34

We must have order. Mopar151 Apr 2013 #40

And just how many ways can these laws be abused? TheMadMonk Apr 2013 #41