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freshwest

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38. If he'd been kept in jail, it wouldn't have happened, no matter what. She called the first time...
Fri Apr 26, 2013, 09:14 PM
Apr 2013

The neighbors called the next two times. It was an ongoing crime in progress that was not taken care of. So much is let go under the banner of 'family' or 'domestic.' It's time to stop this diminishment of assault based on place or relationship. Letting these things go on affects all of society ineventually. The perps don't learn; the person hurt is suffering disruption that may lead to unemployment or health problems from stress, much less from the damages of the assault; and any children in the family will be taught a bad example. I've seen this let go and also seen it dealt with very strongly. The more powerful that the intervention is, the better in the cases I've seen.

But RWers call that a police state tactic. Remember the Inforwars fan couple who took their children and fled to Cuba?

Those children had been taken away from them because they were dealing drugs and talking doomsday stuff - possibly they were going to commit murder suicide. The kids' grandmother was taking care of them. Then it was trumpeted on CT radio about how bad social services were - you can bet if he'd been slapping his wife around it would have been 'family values' time again.

There are big problems in all of these cases of children being removed, but this woman could have used some help, serious help to stop this happening. Instead, she and possibly some children are having havoc in their lives first from the perp, second from legislators or council members who were probably against her getting any help anyway.

Of course, we're all just talking, speculating and only see one part of these short stories. You're right, they don't give enough information. Just think how many thousands of times this is happening, and never makes the news...

I'm sad about the state of our society when no one offers any alternatives.

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I have said this before. Kalidurga Apr 2013 #1
Huh? pnwmom Apr 2013 #2
But this is about a woman who had to have the police out three times due to Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #3
If he did it three times, he should be in jail, is what I think it being said there. freshwest Apr 2013 #6
Yeah, but the main story is about the woman being evicted from her home due to police coming out... Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #8
Yes, shafting the victim. But with a system of supports in place, she'd have left the first time. freshwest Apr 2013 #9
Many abuse victims have been so torn down by the abuser that they feel worthless & unworthy of help peacebird Apr 2013 #17
What would lead you to think I don't know that very well? This law is a symptom of a bigger problem. freshwest Apr 2013 #19
I apologize, that is not what I thought you were saying. It appears we are in violent agreement. peacebird Apr 2013 #20
Thanks. This thread seems to bring that out. I'm gone, see you later. freshwest Apr 2013 #23
Maybe it was her place. He's her ex-boyfriend. How do we know she didn't pnwmom Apr 2013 #37
If he'd been kept in jail, it wouldn't have happened, no matter what. She called the first time... freshwest Apr 2013 #38
Reading the article is helpful TalkingDog Apr 2013 #10
So punish the victim? Canuckistanian Apr 2013 #31
I don't get where people are seeing me say that. Kalidurga Apr 2013 #42
Franken discussed how many women and children were made homeless from DV. At that time, he still freshwest Apr 2013 #4
They wouldn't need so many shelters if they didn't make landlords evict them. pnwmom Apr 2013 #5
The majority of homeless were not evicted, but escaped from home. freshwest Apr 2013 #7
While I'm not defending these laws I understand how they sometimes happen. davsand Apr 2013 #11
Thanks for the context, davsand. n/t pnwmom Apr 2013 #15
Many women cant escape. revmclaren Apr 2013 #12
Thank you for posting this. It really sickens me. truedelphi Apr 2013 #13
What a story, truedelphi. pnwmom Apr 2013 #14
One statistic I have memorized from my brush with truedelphi Apr 2013 #18
I'm not surprised by that at all, sadly enough. pnwmom Apr 2013 #32
This is so fucking wrong on so many levels. Initech Apr 2013 #16
another salvo lobbed in the war against women... SemperEadem Apr 2013 #21
Those in cities with this kind of law Savannahmann Apr 2013 #22
Thank goodness the ACLU is helping her. pennylane100 Apr 2013 #24
God Bless America! AZ Progressive Apr 2013 #25
informative and the lights went on hopemountain Apr 2013 #26
Question for those with legal chops DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2013 #27
Good question. The article mentions other violations. pnwmom Apr 2013 #36
DV calls are where most injuries and deaths to police happen Recursion Apr 2013 #28
The law could also take effect in a stalking situation, pnwmom Apr 2013 #33
Abusers are good at getting the victims to want them to come back Recursion Apr 2013 #35
Not in Hawaii KauaiK Apr 2013 #29
Same here. It's a societal problem, not just that family. freshwest Apr 2013 #39
Norristown? drm604 Apr 2013 #30
Gee doesn't that work out well for the GOP who Politicalboi Apr 2013 #34
We must have order. Mopar151 Apr 2013 #40
And just how many ways can these laws be abused? TheMadMonk Apr 2013 #41
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