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225. And the jaw drops in sheer wonderment at the chutzpah...

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Sat Apr 27, 2013, 09:40 AM

Apr 2013

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the sheer brazenness in trying to rewrite the roles here.

My, how the argument has shifted in desperation:

All those who mocked and resented our trying to hold the President's feet to the fire,

All those who tried to make a laughingstock of Occupy,

All those who lectured us ad nauseum to quit "whining" and trust in this President's Awesome gazillion-dimensional Plan...

All those, now faced with the reality of the betrayals: the hungry seniors and the fat Congressmen breezing past TSA...

All those turn around, take a deep, bracing, inspiring breath of "War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength".....

and start accusing *everyone else* of being the passive ones.

You honestly can't make up this shit from the Third Way anymore.

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Obama is dealt 4 Aces and he folds his hand. [View all] kentuck Apr 2013 OP

I think you're overstating the strength of his hand. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #1

Am I the only one pissed off about this? kentuck Apr 2013 #3

You're not the only one pissed about this. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #7

out-foxed? kentuck Apr 2013 #8

I know, who would have guessed. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #9

I really don't mind if he wins or loses... kentuck Apr 2013 #11

I do mind if he loses, because that means the Teahadists win. nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #15

So, is this a victory for the Teahadists? kentuck Apr 2013 #18

A big victory for the Teahadists. earthside Apr 2013 #32

He is fighting. What you obviously mean is that you want him to show some fight for us. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #34

He is surrendering. kentuck Apr 2013 #36

This is a tough one because a lot MORE than just Congress has been gateley Apr 2013 #57

+1000 n/t Isoldeblue Apr 2013 #168

So where does your support go? George II Apr 2013 #263

My support will go to... kentuck Apr 2013 #270

Oh no, kentuck, he's fighting! Bake Apr 2013 #277

More 11-Dimensional chess. Win by losing. blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #181

Yup. ctsnowman Apr 2013 #230

No, But The GOP Has 5 Aces Up Their Sleeve AndyTiedye Apr 2013 #101

Exactly. But some people really can't see the forest for the trees BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #251

I didn't know that civics lessons were stopped in our public schools. Would my guess Cal33 Apr 2013 #291

Outfoxed? gussmith Apr 2013 #109

IMO, Obama should have the senate pass a bill. If any part of sequestration is abolished, it all is. dotymed Apr 2013 #63

no you are not noiretextatique Apr 2013 #14

Pissed off and pissed on. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #41

You are not the only one pissed-off. But you are making some assumptions that rhett o rick Apr 2013 #77

Yes, but not at Obama Isoldeblue Apr 2013 #112

If the right wing has been so willing to destroy this President why does he seem to continue to midnight Apr 2013 #227

a question that has no answer. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2013 #248

How so? Isoldeblue Apr 2013 #280

How about those bush Tax cuts..... I can't think of a bigger award than this one... midnight Apr 2013 #281

He folded a long time ago. Bush tax cuts should have expired. We would have an economy. robinlynne Apr 2013 #157

Exactly. ctsnowman Apr 2013 #232

It is a testament to the Orwellian shamelessness of Third Way propaganda woo me with science Apr 2013 #278

I'm with you on this big time, ken tuck... MrMickeysMom Apr 2013 #194

The more things change . . . CrispyQ Apr 2013 #238

lol Love it. ctsnowman Apr 2013 #250

NO. Congress deserved to be "inconvenienced" at least. Demeter Apr 2013 #269

I don't know that he's holding a straight. But I like Obama, and I gotta agree w/you on this. Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #285

Well, they looked at him funny, and he interpreted it as a straight flush. Fuddnik Apr 2013 #81

Note the pathetic showing of House and Senate Democrats. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #82

Absolutely! kentuck Apr 2013 #84

Only people with strong stomachs, I would imagine. nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #85

I was, and I wrote to my dem Congressman Lifelong Protester Apr 2013 #252

Even worse IMO: Raine1967 Apr 2013 #143

hand kardonb Apr 2013 #113

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #192

The idea of Sequester was that there would be so much pain in so many places . . . freedom fighter jh Apr 2013 #210

Exactly! marew Apr 2013 #212

Yep. nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #223

That was the stated idea but I tnink we are beginning to see what it's real purpose was now. ctsnowman Apr 2013 #233

I fear you're right. nt freedom fighter jh Apr 2013 #288

Very true. One of the 99 Apr 2013 #235

The President knows that there are easily enough votes to overturn a veto. lamp_shade Apr 2013 #2

Then that would make a very valuable point. kentuck Apr 2013 #5

So you know it wouldn't help fix any problem, but you want him to do it muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #19

Surrender. kentuck Apr 2013 #20

You think an extra day of inconveience to a class of people already inconvenienced muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #25

I really don't care if they turn against Congress. That is not the point. kentuck Apr 2013 #27

So your wish isn't to get Congress to talk about the other subjects after all? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #30

It would be nice but... kentuck Apr 2013 #31

What do you think is more important? Fixing the cuts to Meals on Wheels or ensuring that sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #213

Fixing the cuts to Meals on Wheels. Which is why kentuck's attitude disappoints me muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #217

I agree. Then why do you think the President did not demand that in return for what sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #219

Here's what the White House said on Tuesday: muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #222

Oh puh-leeeeze. woo me with science Apr 2013 #271

..... madfloridian Apr 2013 #97

I didn't even think of that. gateley Apr 2013 #60

Delayed flights cost business time and money, so that's a must fix AndyA Apr 2013 #4

And no fight causes the working class to lose. He needs to stop trying to 'accomodate' sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #49

+10.000 smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #140

Exactly! ctsnowman Apr 2013 #237

+1 n/m Isoldeblue Apr 2013 #116

Those that refuse to fight. kentuck Apr 2013 #6

when you say that "he folds" hfojvt Apr 2013 #10

I am hoping that he is being shrewd. whttevrr Apr 2013 #22

What you said. Fuddnik Apr 2013 #90

an eXcellent observation Stewland Apr 2013 #173

Obama disappoints Stewland Apr 2013 #189

Makes sense, because that's what Republicans demanded. closeupready Apr 2013 #12

Frustrating, isn't it. n/t Cleita Apr 2013 #13

Just hold 'em over until Monday. kentuck Apr 2013 #17

That seems reasonable. gateley Apr 2013 #64

You're right. I can't really add anything to that, but I agree. senseandsensibility Apr 2013 #149

Sucks... whttevrr Apr 2013 #16

There's a lot of bribes..er..campaign contributions to be had from the airline industry. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #21

The kids will grow up to be liberals anyway. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #204

no, he folded in 2011 Enrique Apr 2013 #23

I'm sick of the excuses... kentuck Apr 2013 #24

lets be honest here. You're sick of everything Obama does...again n/t Sheepshank Apr 2013 #37

And to think I voted for him twice... kentuck Apr 2013 #38

and some people never stop villifying. n/t Sheepshank Apr 2013 #39

Yes, I'm pissed... kentuck Apr 2013 #40

but the question and earlier state was "are you even not pissed". Doesn't seem like it Sheepshank Apr 2013 #43

I don't think that's it. I know it's not for me. I'm sick of what he DOESN'T do, like sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #290

NO!! WE DID!! We gave away leverage to the Teabaggers when WE failed to vote in 2010!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #48

you didn't vote in 2010? Enrique Apr 2013 #78

You know exactly what I mean. Don't be ridiculous. Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #87

I voted in 2010, too. kurtzapril4 Apr 2013 #100

No, us liberals didn't vote... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #196

Obviously not enough of us voted, as Russ Feingold lost! When you can explain that, I'll listen. Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #282

The assumption is that everyone in Russ Feingold's district is a "liberal". kentuck Apr 2013 #286

You're proving my point with your response. Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #295

... woo me with science Apr 2013 #274

I voted. Isoldeblue Apr 2013 #121

See my post above. Obviously not enough of us voted. (Of course I did!) Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #283

In 2010 Oregon had the largest midterm turnout since at least the 80's Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #256

Flying has a different clientele then meals on wheels upaloopa Apr 2013 #26

++Good! Newest Reality Apr 2013 #154

+1 Lifelong Protester Apr 2013 #257

I am sick of the Excuses and Chess Moves too. bvar22 Apr 2013 #28

K&R. Really shows you what his priorities are. MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #29

sigh librechik Apr 2013 #33

I know a lot of people are silent because... kentuck Apr 2013 #35

Hey kentuck... Did You Catch This ??? WillyT Apr 2013 #44

Yeah. kentuck Apr 2013 #51

the "sap" montanacowboy Apr 2013 #46

It took me a while, but I'm where you are now. I was pissed when I saw Maureen Dowd's last AlinPA Apr 2013 #56

I am slowly coming to the conclusion that he is not capable of fighting back... kentuck Apr 2013 #59

With the budget, his opening bargaining ploy was a concession. pfffft. byeya Apr 2013 #72

Why did he even bother running then? Was it just because he wanted to be SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #73

I could only guess... kentuck Apr 2013 #75

He is being 'worked', either unwillingly or willingly. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #92

My question as well, because, frankly, if you dislike conflict as much as he seems to dislike it whathehell Apr 2013 #211

it's sickening G_j Apr 2013 #42

SIGH!! These are acts of Congress. Congress controls the purse strings. Trashing thread. Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #45

+1000 n/t Isoldeblue Apr 2013 #125

I'm still laughing at this particular OP saying "You are losing me" to the president he's Number23 Apr 2013 #159

Uh-huh.. kentuck Apr 2013 #163

Better snide than delusional. And thanks for saying I'm cute. Number23 Apr 2013 #164

I'm sorry but you misquote. kentuck Apr 2013 #167

Damn, honey. Forget it. Number23 Apr 2013 #169

Thanks for making it better. kentuck Apr 2013 #175

Outch! Isoldeblue Apr 2013 #178

It is hilarious how many times Obama has lost some of these posters! treestar Apr 2013 #205

4 aces vegasjack Apr 2013 #47

If you think he had four aces, I definitely want to play cards with you. onenote Apr 2013 #50

No, you don't. kentuck Apr 2013 #54

So do I. I just don't overestimate my hands. onenote Apr 2013 #61

Obama can afford to lose you. He's not up for re-election. Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #52

So, should we just stay home? juajen Apr 2013 #103

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #111

My suggestion would be: kentuck Apr 2013 #114

And what if every politician is bribed? Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #120

Alan Grayson in the House seems a lot like Sanders dballance Apr 2013 #191

Yes, because letting more teabaggers into congress will fix everything emulatorloo Apr 2013 #184

This is news like "dog bites man". Com'on, did you learn anything new about him from this ? n/t CincyDem Apr 2013 #53

Bravo. Hold his feet to the fire, just like he told us we should. But, that was ages ago. leveymg Apr 2013 #55

And so begins another episode of OutrageUnderground. JoePhilly Apr 2013 #58

It's more clear by the day that the problem is... kentuck Apr 2013 #62

I enabled Obama by voting for him twice, just like you did. JoePhilly Apr 2013 #67

Nothing pisses you off. kentuck Apr 2013 #71

You're serially incapable of disagreeing with ANYTHING Obama says or does DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2013 #144

you confuse the fact that ... JoePhilly Apr 2013 #174

oh FUCK Skittles Apr 2013 #188

More than anything ... JoePhilly Apr 2013 #220

you act utterly INCAPABLE of the idea of criticism where criticsm is due Skittles Apr 2013 #273

I notice you didn't mention all the other people who continue to be affected sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #293

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #65

You can go back to sleep now. kentuck Apr 2013 #69

Anytime... revmclaren Apr 2013 #80

Who are you call a troll? SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #76

Maybe I should say neighsayers instead. revmclaren Apr 2013 #83

You have 18 posts and you call KENTUCK a troll?!?! stillwaiting Apr 2013 #89

Number of posts dosent make a person a good liberal. Or an honest poster! revmclaren Apr 2013 #99

I now have 23 posts here... revmclaren Apr 2013 #115

You have mistaken my issue with you. stillwaiting Apr 2013 #135

Bless you for saying how it is!! Isoldeblue Apr 2013 #131

So am I.... revmclaren Apr 2013 #132

??!!! You're saying kentuck is a troll? kentuck has been around here along time and is the last AlinPA Apr 2013 #137

Mischoice of words on my part. revmclaren Apr 2013 #139

I don't think anyone (especially me) is saying there are not trolls lurking around DU posts. AlinPA Apr 2013 #262

The "give me more, liberals" SomethingFishy Apr 2013 #145

The American people, especially the traveling class, could give a shit what you so-called..... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #66

I wonder what the people who lost their Meals on Wheels and Head Start would say to you Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2013 #128

If you're as passionate about those issues as you claim, you & millions of others could have.... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #134

But why does the president need pressure to do the right thing? Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2013 #161

The sequester wasn't about the president "doing the right thing". He went on.... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #176

The people affected by Meals on Wheels cuts are unable to "take to the streets" madfloridian Apr 2013 #183

"There is no excuse..none..for cutting a program like this." Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #187

Here's what Occupy is doing in my city. Nothing to snark at, but you can if you like. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #260

+1000 n/t :) Isoldeblue Apr 2013 #133

"Traveling Class"? Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #266

Oh, I've never had any doubt about "your motives". Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #296

Death by a thousand cuts. russspeakeasy Apr 2013 #68

+10000 azurnoir Apr 2013 #70

Another viewpoint: the political ramifications of this favor Obama Politicub Apr 2013 #74

This is assuming... kentuck Apr 2013 #79

I disagree with your assessment Politicub Apr 2013 #93

I could ask? kentuck Apr 2013 #95

Perhaps so. n/t AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #186

Waste Of Time... KharmaTrain Apr 2013 #86

One person and one person only... 99Forever Apr 2013 #91

And That Veto Would Be Overridden... KharmaTrain Apr 2013 #96

Maybe it would, maybe it wouldn't... 99Forever Apr 2013 #138

It already passed with over 2/3 of the vote, do they even have to revote? krawhitham Apr 2013 #148

So fucking what? 99Forever Apr 2013 #156

Facts will NOT deter these people. I honestly think they enjoy making themselves Number23 Apr 2013 #158

All part of the game plan. FiveGoodMen Apr 2013 #88

Myself....Im Damn proud of my President! revmclaren Apr 2013 #94

It's really not about him anymore. It's about how the country is being harmed. madfloridian Apr 2013 #98

How much is enough?..... revmclaren Apr 2013 #102

BS. kentuck Apr 2013 #105

Ranter... revmclaren Apr 2013 #117

You haven't been here long enough to see me rant. kentuck Apr 2013 #122

How do yo know I havent????? revmclaren Apr 2013 #129

Well, I am impressed... kentuck Apr 2013 #130

He ran for president, and he won. He is not standing up for the elderly. Yes, he has the power... madfloridian Apr 2013 #142

X 1000 ctsnowman Apr 2013 #241

+ another 1000 Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #268

I wish there was a "defeatist" alert Politicub Apr 2013 #190

Welcome to DU! treestar Apr 2013 #206

He should have Vetoed the bill Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #104

And then they override the veto muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #136

Yes, but Obama would then have had the moral high ground Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #195

Rich people aren't the only ones who fly. eom tarheelsunc Apr 2013 #106

What an illogical statement? kentuck Apr 2013 #107

The FAA shouldn't be cut, and neither should any of the groups/programs you mentioned. eom tarheelsunc Apr 2013 #108

So let's fix this FAA problem... kentuck Apr 2013 #110

No one wants "others to go to hell" tarheelsunc Apr 2013 #119

But in doing so... kentuck Apr 2013 #123

Maybe he doesn't want to win. DaveT Apr 2013 #118

Ya, but the other side had a royal flush! There's nothing he could have done. Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #124

But there are only 4 aces in the deck... kentuck Apr 2013 #126

Oh ya... Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #141

He lost me a long time ago Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2013 #127

How does Obama get blamed for this again krawhitham Apr 2013 #146

Obama is the leader of the Democratic Party Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #147

Trust you, yeah right krawhitham Apr 2013 #150

OK.... Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #193

No - You Are Right - I Am Also Through With Obama Excuses And Apologists cantbeserious Apr 2013 #151

Yawn. YOU noticed what happened. babylonsister Apr 2013 #152

I did just "like" their page Lifelong Protester Apr 2013 #255

I'm going to throw a serious temper tantrum BethanyQuartz Apr 2013 #153

You know, it feels like we don't even have a president. forestpath Apr 2013 #155

Yes. 840high Apr 2013 #162

IF he approves the XL Pipeline MFM008 Apr 2013 #160

When he does the same people will rush to defend him. ctsnowman Apr 2013 #243

Don' get mad at the President, get mad at congress! Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #165

Do we need to call on every issue? kentuck Apr 2013 #170

The other side does! Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #172

Yeah, yada yada yada. truedelphi Apr 2013 #208

You don't want/need the FAA? eqfan592 Apr 2013 #180

If people are upset that they got funding and others are not... Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #185

Harry S. Truman: "The buck stops here." woo me with science Apr 2013 #197

Why do people keep forgetting.. Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #199

That's priceless. woo me with science Apr 2013 #201

What is priceless is how many mock. Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #202

O Lady Freedom! I stand humbled and shamed by all that Hard Work! woo me with science Apr 2013 #203

lol Love it. ctsnowman Apr 2013 #244

Harry Truman was wrong treestar Apr 2013 #207

What a pile of crap - you seem to think Obama's job is to read DU and tell others what you say muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #209

I think the President's job is to lead his Party, which means twisting arms at times, sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #215

Again, you're asking the President to do the job of talking to your representative for you muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #218

Excuse me?? Where did I say that the people should not call their Reps? I KNOW they have sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #221

That comes from this sub-thread muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #224

'Seem to be saying'? You apparently are not familiar with American politics. I know sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #242

And the jaw drops in sheer wonderment at the chutzpah... woo me with science Apr 2013 #225

Thank you. ctsnowman Apr 2013 #247

You mean like the 90% of Americans dgibby Apr 2013 #287

Just like always. LWolf Apr 2013 #166

Yep, the predictions were just silly. woo me with science Apr 2013 #198

Unfortunately, I'm not surprised MissDeeds Apr 2013 #171

he will go down as a laughingstock Doctor_J Apr 2013 #177

That's pretty strong... kentuck Apr 2013 #179

They are social progressives, and often business liberals. DFW Apr 2013 #214

Obama is a neoliberal and he set the tone of the administration duffyduff Apr 2013 #239

Were any concerned about the elderly, the poor? madfloridian Apr 2013 #240

Like I said, I wouldn't want his job DFW Apr 2013 #246

Voters did get him elected. A lot of them, both times. madfloridian Apr 2013 #259

I doubt that any deliberate harm to the elderly is on anyone's mind in the White House DFW Apr 2013 #261

Harm is still harm, deliberate or not. madfloridian Apr 2013 #264

So you are saying they blundered into Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #265

yes but MFM008 Apr 2013 #279

Your second explanation is likely it. duffyduff Apr 2013 #236

The DU rec doesn't lie. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2013 #182

Hey that's better than anything Mo "oldest profession" Dowd ever came up with. ucrdem Apr 2013 #200

I can't stay mad at the guy we elected, so I am just writing him off... Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #216

Kenny Rogers- the Gambler graham4anything Apr 2013 #226

He didn't sign the bill. He can't, because the morons in Congress misspelled a word. 6000eliot Apr 2013 #228

You're not the only one pissed off about this, kentuck. The problem is truth2power Apr 2013 #229

The well-worn routine is as reliable as Groundhog Day jsr Apr 2013 #231

+1 woo me with science Apr 2013 #267

At the very least he would address this to the American people. ctsnowman Apr 2013 #234

You mean, like talking in his weekly address about it? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #245

Talk is cheep. There is a war on for the soul of this country and we don't have a leader. ctsnowman Apr 2013 #249

You are ignorant of my politics muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #258

Agreed on the MIC part and my judgment of you.Sorry. But we will just have to disagree about Obama. ctsnowman Apr 2013 #275

republicans bargaining power directly related to left's complete ignore-ance of RW radio certainot Apr 2013 #253

Obama (R) L0oniX Apr 2013 #254

Unanimous Consent-- If Not Courageous ProSense Apr 2013 #272

Come on you must know congress people are the ones who have to fly all the time. dkf Apr 2013 #276

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! Zoeisright Apr 2013 #284

The mask has come off... Oilwellian Apr 2013 #289

Here's what would have happened: ucrdem Apr 2013 #292

Not necessarily. kentuck Apr 2013 #294