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Ms. Toad

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26. I implied a relastionship between the recent decision
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 07:18 PM
Feb 2012

and people's heightened interest shutting corporate voices from the political process.

Things tend to just trundle along with just a few voices pointing out concerns until there is something to bring the attention to general public notice. That something in this case was Citizens United. Following that case there were quite a few more people interested in shutting corporations out of the political process - at all levels (lobbyists, issue advocacy, candidate advocacy, etc.) not just the specific ways addressed in the case.

On a parallel track, SOPA/PIPA were moving pretty quietly through congress, with just a few voices pointing out concerns. On the corporate level, SOPA/PIPA mostly pitted old media (film and recording groups) against newer media (facebook, google, twitter, wikipedia, etc.). The latter decided to use its corporate voice (money/bully pulpit) to motivate us to action by staging a black-out. (The black-out is not so different from the way issue ads motivate us to vote for/against a particular candidate.) We seemed to like them using their voices to influence this policy (but also seem reluctant to admit that is what happened).

It just raises the question for me about whether we really object to corporate involvement in policy making/politics - or we only object when it acts against what we perceive as our interests. I'm not advocating one direction or the other - just raising what (to me) is an obvious question: If we really want them out of politics, then why are we cheering, rather than being upset about, the blackout?

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As much as I mock it, social media is really making an impact - for the better! Cooley Hurd Feb 2012 #1
It works in election years. I am not so sure it is that effective in off years. I may be wrong. jwirr Feb 2012 #3
Social Media is evolving so fast, that it's hard to say. Kber Feb 2012 #5
We are in uncharted territory. randome Feb 2012 #11
K and R DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #2
It happens with CorpMedia cannot contain the flood of progressive ideas! KansDem Feb 2012 #4
Not quite so fast... Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #6
People saw the message at high traffic sites, true, hedgehog Feb 2012 #7
It isn't just that they saw the message at high traffic sites Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #8
"voices we are trying to silence" 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #10
Not quite sure what you think is bullcrap. Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #17
The SOPA/PIPA blackout did NOT depend on Citizens United to happen. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #20
I wasn't implying it did. Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #23
You implied a relation between corporate personhood and the blackout. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #25
I implied a relastionship between the recent decision Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #26
If corporations stayed out of politics, there wouldn't be a NEED for a blackout! 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #27
You're missing the point. Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #28
"We happen to like the goals of one side better than the other" 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #29
I wasn't discussing the goal - but the tool used to get there. Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #30
You raise some interesting points. randome Feb 2012 #12
A friend of mine posted that article on his FB wall. Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #16
Corporate personhood was not in any way necessary for the blackouts. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #9
But it was corporate voices which are responsible for them. Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #14
Or was it that the corporate voices gave hedgehog Feb 2012 #18
I work in an area that makes me aware of SOPA/PIPA Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #19
I think that's missing the point. silverweb Feb 2012 #13
I think you are limiting a general feeling that corporations should be out of politics Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #15
WE (liberal bloggers) also got Trent Loyt out of the Senate leadership underpants Feb 2012 #21
I credit OWS for this - TBF Feb 2012 #22
Hear, hear! woo me with science Feb 2012 #24
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