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85. And what about the equally dramatic drop in gun deaths over the same period? (nt)

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Please tell me what would be so bad to have guns treated exactly like cars [View all] Robyn66 Apr 2013 OP

Because God didn't invent cars, but God did write the Second Amendment. It is infallible. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #1

Thank you for clearing that up! Robyn66 Apr 2013 #2

Really, your hyperbole is ridiculous etherealtruth Apr 2013 #14

I suppose... Pelican Apr 2013 #3

I want an honest answer if you have one. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #5

Lets see... Pelican Apr 2013 #15

The "well regulated militia" is always left out of this 2nd amendment talk Robyn66 Apr 2013 #20

No ones talking about black helicopters in this discussion... Pelican Apr 2013 #25

Ok you win Robyn66 Apr 2013 #26

I'm just kind of dissapointed... Pelican Apr 2013 #43

You are right, guns should be regulated just like cars... CapnSteve Apr 2013 #62

So one can only worship or speak freely in groups? That's news to me. Flatulo Apr 2013 #66

All rights are subject to reasonable regulation. The Supreme Court recently ruled that JDPriestly Apr 2013 #81

If, after Newtown, we cannot agree on what reasonable restrictions are, then I'm sure we'll be Flatulo Apr 2013 #90

Actually, lots of cars are confiscated under the property forfeiture laws. If you get caught Flatulo Apr 2013 #65

My reading tells me that firearms were invented for use in gaining advantage in wars. That mostly AlinPA Apr 2013 #38

Sometimes yes.. Sometimes no... Pelican Apr 2013 #42

No, but firearms were invented primarily for wars. That involves killing. Today, they continue to AlinPA Apr 2013 #50

Again I ask... so what? Pelican Apr 2013 #55

I'm not talking about changing anything here. Just making the point again about the primary use of AlinPA Apr 2013 #59

Fair enough... Pelican Apr 2013 #61

Sorry but this argument fails based on the fact that I can't find the word "privledge" anywhere rwsanders Apr 2013 #53

Really? You're going to jump to the typo sniping? How brave and intellectual of you... Pelican Apr 2013 #58

Don't know what you mean by "typo sniping" but as a self proclaimed gun nut, if I were you rwsanders Apr 2013 #108

I'll explain Barney style then... Pelican Apr 2013 #116

There wasn't anywhere in my post where I attacked a typo... rwsanders Apr 2013 #117

Then you'll miss out on... Pelican Apr 2013 #118

Aren't vehicles private property? LWolf Apr 2013 #110

You don't have to register and insure cars. ileus Apr 2013 #4

That's true. Mariana Apr 2013 #6

But many, many people are killed by guns in the home. n/t Orsino Apr 2013 #7

But many, many people are killed by cars, whether registered or not. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #11

And if we stopped registering automobiles and drivers? What then? n/t Orsino Apr 2013 #36

The answer is that a lot of people would stop voting for Democrats as they did in the 1994 AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #48

Ah. Do nothing. Orsino Apr 2013 #97

Nothing will prevent all deaths treestar Apr 2013 #99

do not have to do any of that Duckhunter935 Apr 2013 #101

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #119

What percentage of your car usage is confined to non-public roads? Paladin Apr 2013 #23

For the Jeep about 95% ileus Apr 2013 #33

Pretty unique circumstances, wouldn't you say? Paladin Apr 2013 #40

Yep. Too bad adam lanza decided to take his mom's gun out in public. jmg257 Apr 2013 #30

Do you REALLY want guns treated like cars? hooptie Apr 2013 #8

Sounds fine to me. ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #28

There are potential holes to be poked in the OP, for sure. nomorenomore08 Apr 2013 #70

Deal!!! Iggo Apr 2013 #115

For one, it would be very difficult demwing Apr 2013 #9

Enumerated rights get treated differently the chattel ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #10

Are you listing things about cars or guns? Thinkingabout Apr 2013 #12

Both ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #46

I only consider the automotive analogy for the method of the licensing Robyn66 Apr 2013 #13

Are you willing to Federalize all of the gun issues? ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #52

You support a gun license that is good everywhere in the country? Cool. nt hack89 Apr 2013 #16

You're right. truebluegreen Apr 2013 #21

Licensing owners is the way to go hack89 Apr 2013 #24

A definite improvement, truebluegreen Apr 2013 #27

That is never going to happen. nt hack89 Apr 2013 #29

Probably not. truebluegreen Apr 2013 #31

There is no constitutional right to own a car. Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #17

If you are interested in analogies, to borrow from your phraseology, AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #18

what would be so bad about it is that cars are not designed to kill people, guns are. bowens43 Apr 2013 #19

yet Robyn66 Apr 2013 #22

Yes--and the folks complaining about the analogy are missing the point lolly Apr 2013 #34

In some ways yes, in some ways no ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #47

They are where I live (nt) Robyn66 Apr 2013 #72

Most likely not ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #91

my concern is not about junk cars Robyn66 Apr 2013 #93

You missed the point entirely ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #95

No, they really aren't. N/T beevul Apr 2013 #77

Yet cars kill more people annually than guns in the US. nt NickB79 Apr 2013 #35

Cars kill far fewer people than they used to lolly Apr 2013 #60

Guns kill fewer than half as many people as they did 20 years ago Recursion Apr 2013 #86

Oh, OK then. lolly Apr 2013 #100

No. Cars are designed to move 2000 Kg objects at high velocity, guns to propel 2 gram objects kappa maki Apr 2013 #39

So... Pelican Apr 2013 #49

I wouldn't have a problem with it. n/t doc03 Apr 2013 #32

You may have to register your cars but there is no chance that the government ... spin Apr 2013 #37

Wow. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #79

No problem. (n/t) spin Apr 2013 #102

Except that when car registration was proposed, opponents claimed jeff47 Apr 2013 #104

Interesting. ... spin Apr 2013 #113

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #41

In addition to other comments; Do you register your car at a federal or state level? The Straight Story Apr 2013 #44

Ok Robyn66 Apr 2013 #73

My reply The Straight Story Apr 2013 #74

My opinion Robyn66 Apr 2013 #80

Well, sort of The Straight Story Apr 2013 #82

I agree with almost everything you are saying Robyn66 Apr 2013 #92

Are you suggesting... beevul Apr 2013 #78

Drivers licenses are federally standardized, and are compiled in a nationally accessible database. baldguy Apr 2013 #45

I still can't seem to find the constitutional guarantee of the right to drive a car kappa maki Apr 2013 #51

People have the right to freedom of movement under the Constitution, subject to certain regulations baldguy Apr 2013 #56

Why would safety standards ban most firearms? justanidea Apr 2013 #63

Which fed govt agency oversees product safety for firearms? baldguy Apr 2013 #69

Let's see what regulating guns like cars would look like: justanidea Apr 2013 #54

I don't know about the car analogy (it fails in some ways), but owning a gun should not be NYC Liberal Apr 2013 #57

I don't have a driver's license Silver Swan Apr 2013 #64

The right is not absolute. Stonepounder Apr 2013 #67

So many arguments with one simple answer ednky Apr 2013 #68

For the moment sarisataka Apr 2013 #87

Not a perfect analogy, but decent food for thought at least. nomorenomore08 Apr 2013 #71

Guns are not cars. rrneck Apr 2013 #75

Your plan will not stop people from killing each other with guns. Stretch714 Apr 2013 #76

... ellisonz Apr 2013 #83

And what about the equally dramatic drop in gun deaths over the same period? (nt) Recursion Apr 2013 #85

Many of the same factors (especially improved medical care). ellisonz Apr 2013 #88

I just did an OP on that Recursion Apr 2013 #89

And yet cars killed more than twice the people killed by assholes with guns. Stretch714 Apr 2013 #106

Really? Really? Really? ellisonz Apr 2013 #107

So car deaths would go down if we limited the number of days people could drive there cars. Stretch714 Apr 2013 #109

lol ellisonz Apr 2013 #111

What is funny? Stretch714 Apr 2013 #114

So: no waiting period, no background check, you only need a license for public use Recursion Apr 2013 #84

this totally misses the point of what i have been saying Robyn66 Apr 2013 #94

I'm for a Federal Firearms license, personally Recursion Apr 2013 #96

Or you could stop desperately clinging to being over-literal. jeff47 Apr 2013 #105

No argument here treestar Apr 2013 #98

Because WOLVERINES!!!!!! jeff47 Apr 2013 #103

Good OP. Good thread. n/t Agschmid Apr 2013 #112