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Douglas Carpenter

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16. even well before the DLC - the trend was already established that Democrats would at best only hold

Sun Apr 28, 2013, 01:55 AM

Apr 2013

on or minimize reductions in the New Deal and the Great Society. I would say that not since 1972 has there been a Democratic nominee or a candidate for the Democratic nomination who actually came at all close to winning the Democratic nomination who was driven by the New Deal and Great Society vision of pushing forward and expanding social democracy. Even Mondale in in 84 and Dukakis in 88 who both had New Deal backgrounds - were NOT running on a platform to expand the New Deal and the Great Society - they were running on a platform to basically hold the line or minimize cutbacks. This contrast sharply with the LBJ in 64 or Humphrey in 68 or McGovern in 72 who in spite of their fundamental split over the Vietnam war - all three of them called for eradicating poverty and creating the just society.

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As Elizabeth Warren said.. [View all] Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 OP

To imagine that only the Republicans have responsibility for selling out Jackpine Radical Apr 2013 #1

you're right it would be hopelessly naive to believe it was only Republicans who sold out to the 99% Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #5

Good point.. sendero Apr 2013 #23

Well, you could imagine it if... ReRe Apr 2013 #11

Clinton sold us out ...and now it's looking more like were getting sold out again. L0oniX Apr 2013 #14

Of course, but who was behind Clinton? n/t ReRe Apr 2013 #15

even well before the DLC - the trend was already established that Democrats would at best only hold Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #16

Yeah, Dems were afraid... ReRe Apr 2013 #19

You gotta factor in Mopar151 Apr 2013 #41

EXACTLY!! No novelist could have created a figure more red, white and blue than George McGovern Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #50

I almost DON'T THINK it WAS a political goon.... ReRe Apr 2013 #51

Very, very true. Bill let them in, BlueToTheBone Apr 2013 #34

If that doesn't get people to see it, I don't know what will BrotherIvan Apr 2013 #2

That's it in a nutshell. Bravo, Elizabeth. LuckyLib Apr 2013 #3

She has a way of summarizing better than anyone else ErikJ Apr 2013 #4

Agreed. Nt newfie11 Apr 2013 #20

Thank you Carolina Apr 2013 #32

Hey, I LIKE that Facebook page whose link you posted! calimary Apr 2013 #6

You heard it here first from me Wednesdays Apr 2013 #7

+1 MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #9

Absolutely! ReRe Apr 2013 #12

Yes, Yes, Yes - We Do Not Need Hillary As The Standard Bearer For Democrats cantbeserious Apr 2013 #22

+10 n/t whathehell Apr 2013 #28

Hillary's time has come - and gone. reformist2 Apr 2013 #31

I don't know if you are first... 99Forever Apr 2013 #43

Hillary is with the program and Warren is not. That'll make Hillary tough to beat. pa28 Apr 2013 #47

Thanks! Can you please cross-post to the Elizabeth Warren group? MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #8

We Need Elizabeth Warren.... supercats Apr 2013 #10

I dunno, she may be more valuable as a senator malthaussen Apr 2013 #25

This. blackspade Apr 2013 #13

I'm so glad she's out there saying this stuff. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #17

Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, and Alan Grayson mick063 Apr 2013 #18

Absolutely! Elizabeth Warren is my Senator. smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #33

Warren /Dean 2016 Mopar151 Apr 2013 #42

I liked about everything you said there.... ReRe Apr 2013 #53

Add these to the list libdude Apr 2013 #44

One more: Brigid Apr 2013 #49

The more Dems like Waren we have the better off we will be enjoyingyourpeasyet Apr 2013 #21

"I only give to Progressives" -- What I tell the DSCC & DCCC when they call. n/t whathehell Apr 2013 #29

I completely agree. nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #36

Now this is leadership!! 4dsc Apr 2013 #24

Brilliant and courageous! Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #26

K&R burnodo Apr 2013 #27

She's got the touch. She knows exactly how to frame the argument in easy to understand sound bites! reformist2 Apr 2013 #30

What kind of world allows the rich to skim off the rest of us? midnight Apr 2013 #35

The One Created By And For The 1% And Maintained By Both Parties Via Legal Bribes Called Donations cantbeserious Apr 2013 #37

wow..I have not checked this for about 11 hours and - not it made it to the front page!! Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #38

She knows what to say and how to say it. That is brilliant in my opinion. TNNurse Apr 2013 #39

2016 (nt) NYC_SKP Apr 2013 #40

Sad indeed. My country too. Maggie 'n Ronnie were quite a pair. LeftishBrit Apr 2013 #45

Elizabeth Warren is great Jake2413 Apr 2013 #46

K&R DeSwiss Apr 2013 #48

President Warren G_j Apr 2013 #52

KAy & Arghhhh! Plucketeer Apr 2013 #54

She needs to be it in 2016 and everyone knows it should be her if we are to begin Jefferson23 May 2013 #55