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Threedifferentones

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117. The evidence is right there for all to see.

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 07:45 AM

Apr 2013

As the other poster said, guns do not discharge by pulling back the slide. If no flaw in the gun can be found, if this accident cannot be replicated, that is really suspicious.

Even worse, she had this weapon pointed at her husbands upper body so that a single shot would prove rapidly fatal. Even if she did not intend to fire the weapon, why did she have it pointed at her husband?

Finally, while accidental shootings are obviously quite common, they are also frequently lies, especially when read in the news.

Think about it. Stats show that for the roughly 30k gun deaths annually in the USA, 20k are suicides. How many families will lie to the media and say a suicide was an accident?

If a person cannot lie about having shot someone, but they do not want to get charged with murder, they will probably say it was an accident. It makes sense and undoubtedly goes on all the time.

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Wife accidentally kills husband during gun lesson [View all] warrior1 Apr 2013 OP

Thaaaaaat's a shame alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #105

this story stinks to high heaven warrior1 Apr 2013 #2

Not very responsible... cyberswede Apr 2013 #48

Right! brush Apr 2013 #66

let's get the guns out at 3 am after a drinking binge arely staircase Apr 2013 #78

Yep customerserviceguy Apr 2013 #114

Or irrelevancies. LanternWaste Apr 2013 #127

Who said anything about banning handguns? nt EOTE Apr 2013 #130

Isn't that why customerserviceguy Apr 2013 #169

Nope, not at all. EOTE Apr 2013 #170

What law are you going to pass customerserviceguy May 2013 #172

How about passing a law that makes it so stupid, drunk people EOTE May 2013 #173

Intelligence tests for gun ownership, eh? customerserviceguy May 2013 #174

Intelligence is not the same thing as mental health EOTE May 2013 #175

+1 Union Scribe Apr 2013 #118

There is something fishy about this. HappyMe Apr 2013 #125

Yep, guns really keep people safe and save lives. Especially after hours of casually drinking vodka appleannie1 Apr 2013 #3

This is not a shame.... Swede Atlanta Apr 2013 #4

I would expect empathy from a Democrat. nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #106

Doesn't sound like she was much of a gun lover. Captain Stern Apr 2013 #122

Darwinism, hard at work. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #5

What could possibly go wrong? BeyondGeography Apr 2013 #6

Alcohol and guns....Oy nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #7

Six and a half hours of alcohol... FarCenter Apr 2013 #14

Yet, some states thinks guns should be allowed in BARS? HockeyMom Apr 2013 #33

Not everyone in a bar goes there to drink kudzu22 Apr 2013 #76

Right, they go there to read the articles in Playboy. yellowcanine Apr 2013 #148

Pool tables. Darts. Cards. Music. Business. ieoeja Apr 2013 #157

Bars are perfect places for AA meetings. Progressive dog May 2013 #176

Not only does Darwin win so do the statistics! enjoyingyourpeasyet Apr 2013 #8

So Guns Do Kill People otohara Apr 2013 #9

If you actually believe her story. Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #97

This is not a public safety issue FarCenter Apr 2013 #10

Yes. Thank God the safety of the public Crunchy Frog Apr 2013 #13

LOL. Crunchy Frog Apr 2013 #11

What do you think you know that nobody Jenoch Apr 2013 #34

Maybe this. Iggo Apr 2013 #40

What they were doing was Jenoch Apr 2013 #44

I've never heard of a real gun safety training class where instructor and students are liquored Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #98

I hope you don't expect compassion when you die. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #107

Because gun nuts exhibt so much compassion for victims of gun violence, right? baldguy Apr 2013 #124

I pride myself on being as little like them as possible. EOTE Apr 2013 #132

Horrible etherealtruth Apr 2013 #12

A gun lesson, at 3:30am?! reformist2 Apr 2013 #15

Bad headline. Brickbat Apr 2013 #16

Yeah, you read the headline and wonder how it went wrong.. Cha Apr 2013 #80

Heh jollyreaper2112 Apr 2013 #17

I suspect they thought they were responsible gun owners, right up till they weren't. Hoyt Apr 2013 #19

Exactly jollyreaper2112 Apr 2013 #24

I'm sorry about your hand. Chellee Apr 2013 #31

Heh jollyreaper2112 Apr 2013 #32

+1000. Pro-gunners like to claim that... Beartracks Apr 2013 #55

The problem is Shadowflash Apr 2013 #145

The difference between "responsible gun owners" and this couple was a bottle of scotch. Marr Apr 2013 #150

Reportedly, they were drinking vodka and lemonade. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #155

Another fine example of why we need more guns in more places. Hoyt Apr 2013 #18

Damn you autocorrect!!...nt SidDithers Apr 2013 #134

Really. Posting on my phone is dangerous. Hoyt Apr 2013 #135

Six hours of foreplay before the act. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2013 #20

Too bad he didn't have a gun so he could protect himself. Happyhippychick Apr 2013 #21

glad nobody who had no involvement in this crap were killed JI7 Apr 2013 #22

Yep. How would you like to live in a thin-walled apartment adjacent to such yahoos. Hoyt Apr 2013 #37

good grief PD Turk Apr 2013 #23

Oh yeah marions ghost Apr 2013 #27

the story about why the gun went off is bullshit nt PD Turk Apr 2013 #29

We don't know anything marions ghost Apr 2013 #36

I will PD Turk Apr 2013 #41

They were drunk and she was a novice marions ghost Apr 2013 #56

"Police had been called to the couple's house just once, a year ago, for a domestic argument, but by AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #57

hmmm PD Turk Apr 2013 #65

You left out the argument. Why was it bullshit? nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #84

because PD Turk Apr 2013 #86

But of course. "Normally" when sober people are pulling the slide back and releasing it rhett o rick Apr 2013 #87

what I meant was PD Turk Apr 2013 #88

Yeah. We all know that. What's your point? nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #90

my point is PD Turk Apr 2013 #92

The evidence is right there for all to see. Threedifferentones Apr 2013 #117

I don't know what happened, but I can see this happening.. pipoman Apr 2013 #64

What leaps to my mind sarisataka Apr 2013 #67

so PD Turk Apr 2013 #68

That's why semi-autos need to be restricted. Even "experts" screw up with the dang things. Hoyt Apr 2013 #136

Good luck with that.. pipoman Apr 2013 #137

Oh, I know the whining from gun nuts would be deafening. Hoyt Apr 2013 #138

Not to mention SCOTUS, the ACLU, most LEOs...etc.. pipoman Apr 2013 #139

I was skeptical too. But see the video at #85. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #89

I'll be damned PD Turk Apr 2013 #91

Without the video, I wouldn't have believed it. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #96

Hey, can you guys tell me what that loser is doing. Do gunners call that training for self-defense? Hoyt Apr 2013 #149

Whatever the shooter is doing, he's not engaging in mindless name-calling. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #151

Sorry, we need to label folks using guns for such crap what the are. I was generous. Hoyt Apr 2013 #153

Ah, you are so persuasive. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #154

Waste of time trying to persuade those who are irrational over their guns. Hoyt Apr 2013 #156

Lesson #1 -- guns and alcohol do not mix kudzu22 Apr 2013 #25

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #53

I hope you are not armed. PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #61

How about no... sarisataka Apr 2013 #62

You need to go over to the Gungeon and register as a life time member! Walk away Apr 2013 #63

You have no idea what you are talking about.. Jenoch Apr 2013 #73

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #79

Remind me never to go shooting with you kudzu22 Apr 2013 #100

Actually no, I don't drink and drive because I am not a moron.... Walk away Apr 2013 #115

yup.... 'Guns and alcohol: Gun owners drink more and take more risks, study says' PeaceNikki Apr 2013 #121

You should have your own thread for this info! + 1,000.000! Walk away Apr 2013 #161

If you handle, carry, or shoot while even slightly inebriated, you are a danger to others as well Ikonoklast Apr 2013 #71

Alcohol leads to stupidity and negligence kudzu22 Apr 2013 #72

After the ammo is locked up, the guns are stripped and soaking in Hoppe's, then maybe sir pball Apr 2013 #99

Here is a case where everyone had a gun. liberal N proud Apr 2013 #26

Yet another responsible gun owner. SheilaT Apr 2013 #28

Thankfully, no holy guns were harmed. jpak Apr 2013 #30

This story is utterly worthless TheCowsCameHome Apr 2013 #35

LMAO. Hoyt Apr 2013 #38

Every day I look for a hilarious post on DU mokawanis Apr 2013 #77

The gun could be a member of a cell of sleeper guns, just waiting for a chance Coyotl Apr 2013 #81

Yep, and we need pictures of guns too. nevergiveup Apr 2013 #82

LOL Skittles Apr 2013 #95

Bullseye. Many thanks. (nt) Paladin Apr 2013 #116

LOL! nt laundry_queen Apr 2013 #123

Hold muh beer, honey bunny mwrguy Apr 2013 #39

She almost had to have the trigger depressed ileus Apr 2013 #42

No joke. More to point, neither should have owned a gun, certainly not a semi-auto. Hoyt Apr 2013 #133

And the fact is the vast majority of us DO handle guns properly. Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #140

You guys don't handle them well enough. Hoyt Apr 2013 #142

Which means what, exactly? Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #143

Which means what, exactly? Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #166

Most people who drink and drive don't kill someone either but.... Walk away Apr 2013 #162

Your post makes ZERO sense. Common Sense Party Apr 2013 #165

Of course guns and Jenoch Apr 2013 #43

He died doing what he loved. Crunchy Frog Apr 2013 #50

"He died doing what he loved." Jenoch Apr 2013 #51

It's pretty evident that he loved playing with guns Crunchy Frog Apr 2013 #160

The load of crap is the sentiment Jenoch Apr 2013 #163

Vodka and guns. What could possibly go wrong? nt Locut0s Apr 2013 #45

�When she let go of the slide, the weapon went off," - Bullshit. Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #46

It does happen kudzu22 Apr 2013 #74

The odds of the slide actuation causing a discharge are extremely rare. Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #75

NOT pushing the trigger is harder for a beginner ecstatic Apr 2013 #94

Here's an odd one with a Glock. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #85

After "casually drinking vodka" for awhile, perhaps she got some of the details wrong BlueStreak Apr 2013 #101

But...but... that's unpossible! They were obviously responsible gun owners! baldguy Apr 2013 #47

If you're going to drink, lock up the guns treestar Apr 2013 #49

The guns were locked up. Maybe some other than an idiot should have had the keys to the safe. bluestate10 Apr 2013 #59

Oh good grief treestar Apr 2013 #141

These are the NRA's "responsible gun owners." alarimer Apr 2013 #52

Sad. Reminds me of Mike Royko's regular feature caraher Apr 2013 #54

The 2nd Amendment needs to be removed. Apophis Apr 2013 #58

Indeed, a lesson was learned. Robb Apr 2013 #60

"I can't believe you shot me," he said jsr Apr 2013 #69

Wanko? Seriously? MADem Apr 2013 #102

yeah, I was sympathetic until I read the name iwillalwayswonderwhy Apr 2013 #111

The Wanko's get tanked and play guns ... Historic NY Apr 2013 #70

Heh heh, at least that's what she said. moondust Apr 2013 #93

I wonder what tomorrow's gun lesson will be. rightsideout Apr 2013 #103

If you can, compare the famous Hemingway story "The Short Happy Life of Francis Macomber." dimbear Apr 2013 #104

Bookmarking this thread for use next time someone claims most DUers are compassionate or decent. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #108

And yet you're still here Fumesucker Apr 2013 #110

Really? Shame on us? iwillalwayswonderwhy Apr 2013 #113

I'm just glad they didn't kill anyone else. laundry_queen Apr 2013 #126

Gunfucker gets drunk and dies playing with his toys. Iggo Apr 2013 #120

"A fun night?" Sounds like the 51st way to leave your lover. DFW Apr 2013 #109

Flame me Carolina Apr 2013 #112

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #119

Christ, how cruel. EOTE Apr 2013 #128

Classy thread, guys. nt Union Scribe Apr 2013 #129

I imagine they will allow your sentiment all the attention it indeed warrants... LanternWaste Apr 2013 #131

What better time to give a gun lesson than when both people are half in the bag? Ganja Ninja Apr 2013 #144

let me remember - oh yeah - gun in the house rurallib Apr 2013 #146

Gun "lesson" at 3:30 am after night of drinking vodka? yellowcanine Apr 2013 #147

Responsible gun owners don't drink first then go play with their guns AndyA Apr 2013 #152

That's what they all say. (I live here; the abbreviation is not "PENN."!!!! It is "PA." TY.) WinkyDink Apr 2013 #158

Hmmmmmm. and that's all I'm gonna say. nt. polly7 Apr 2013 #159

�When she let go of the slide, the weapon went off� Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #164

Since the guy died, wouldn't HappyMe Apr 2013 #167

I'd assume so. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #168

I suspect also poor "don't point the gun at someone" discipline JHB Apr 2013 #171

My schedule at 3 AM is different sellitman May 2013 #177