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librechik

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20. which torture? I believe he already ordered torture to stop in our military--

Mon Apr 29, 2013, 11:38 AM

Apr 2013

at least as far as he was legally allowed. Again, the rules were changed--by Republicans. But history shows us that force feeding is not counted as torture for obvious reasons. of course IMO, it should be. But if Obama orders the forced feeding to stop, isn't he essentially ordering the deaths of these people?

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Over 130 Prisoners on Hunger Strike, Dozens Being Force Fed [View all] dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 OP

Well that's Newest Reality Apr 2013 #1

The torture described in the Constitution Project Task Force's Report on Detainee Treatment AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #2

too bad the a-holes who could do something about G'tmo, i.e.the Republican House librechik Apr 2013 #3

I don't think Obama.... NCTraveler Apr 2013 #4

yeah, NO. You can't relocate these guys without money. TONS of money. Obama doesn't have that power. librechik Apr 2013 #7

Obama can release persons who are not charged. NCTraveler Apr 2013 #12

he has done that. For most of them. librechik Apr 2013 #22

Untrue. former9thward Apr 2013 #28

Gitmo is open to the sea. If Obama really wants to do something, such as releasing those AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #29

What a pity that Obama cares so much but just doesn't have the power to do anything. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #6

He can't order the House to budget for removal/ relocation of the prisoners. librechik Apr 2013 #9

Just too weak? What a shame. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #10

But, he could order the DOJ to arrest the torturers and bring them to trial. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #11

force feeding is obviously torture--but try proving it in court. librechik Apr 2013 #14

Anyone involved in torture should be arrested and tried. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #15

which torture? I believe he already ordered torture to stop in our military-- librechik Apr 2013 #20

If it's not torture, then the perpetrators should have nothing to fear from a trial. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #23

again, after ordering it's close, Obama's powers ended. librechik Apr 2013 #24

I see. The DoJ is not part of the Executive branch. rug Apr 2013 #25

IMO, the DOJ is a separate entity from the Obama administration librechik Apr 2013 #31

What?!? rug Apr 2013 #32

read Ron Susskind's "Confidence Men" if you think I'm wrong librechik Apr 2013 #37

It sounds more like a White House losing control than an independent DoJ. rug Apr 2013 #39

Or...he could fire Holder and put someone in the job who would. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author librechik Apr 2013 #35

would heartily endorse that strategy librechik Apr 2013 #36

Don't promise to do what you can't or won't do. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #18

easy to say first day on the job. librechik Apr 2013 #21

I'm tired of partisan arguing about whom to assign the blame.... mike_c Apr 2013 #38

No doubt the DOJ will bring those pepetrating the torture to justice. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #5

the US gleefully joins the pantheon of stinking torture states KG Apr 2013 #8

What a sordid, cruel mess! Let those men go. Close the prison. nt ladjf Apr 2013 #13

I am sure to get a TS or at least get hidden if I said what I think about Obama... L0oniX Apr 2013 #16

Yeah, Constitutional lawyer. Mnemosyne Apr 2013 #17

They so bad, we CAN'T bring them to trial! grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #19

Why is that human rights crime still standing? Most of the detainees there have been sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #26

Seems like something of a self-correcting problem in the long run. Joseph Ledger Apr 2013 #27

Obama cannot escape culpability here. GitRDun Apr 2013 #30

Forced feeding is a bad sign discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2013 #33

Kick for more attention to the abomination that is Guantanamo. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #40